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    Post by wprager on Mon May 09, 2016 11:19 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:Read on Twitter that Crawford was Boucher's choice.  Part of his 5 hour presentation to Dorion and the Sens.  

    Both coached in the Swiss league. Apparently most of the coaches there are Canadian and they are a tight group.

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    Re: Guy Boucher hired as Ottawa's head coach + Crawford signed as assistant

    Post by Hoags on Mon May 09, 2016 11:21 am

    Habs could always poach Groulx from the AHL.

    If anything we are grooming them a HC once they realize how bad Therrien is

    Ev wrote:Diddle Boudreau. Our coaching is gonna be killer. We want guys who want to be here

    Appropriate since we have a team of coach killers. Sarcasm


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    Post by wprager on Mon May 09, 2016 11:23 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:Told #Sens could hire another bilingual coach for farm team. Benoit Groulx did very well in interview according to sources. Likely the guy.

    — Louis Jean (@LouisJean_TVA) May 9, 2016

    Someone was giving me a hard time suggesting the Sens would consider a francophone coach.
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    Post by wprager on Mon May 09, 2016 11:24 am

    Oglethorpe wrote:Michel Therrien must be smiling today.

    Don't think he is capable.


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    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 09, 2016 11:33 am

    Let's get these two guys on board!
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    Post by Ev on Mon May 09, 2016 11:34 am

    Leo Luongo could be an option as goalie coach:

    http://heshootshescoores.com/luongo-e-lawrence-come-amici-e-colleghi-presto-ai-senators/
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon May 09, 2016 12:03 pm

    Hoags wrote:Habs could always poach Groulx from the AHL.

    If anything we are grooming them a HC once they realize how bad Therrien is

    Ev wrote:Diddle Boudreau. Our coaching is gonna be killer. We want guys who want to be here

    Appropriate since we have a team of coach killers.  Sarcasm


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    Ev wrote:Leo Luongo could be an option as goalie coach:

    http://heshootshescoores.com/luongo-e-lawrence-come-amici-e-colleghi-presto-ai-senators/

    Is that a picture of Leo or Roberto? Honestly, if I just saw the picture I would have thought it was Roberto.


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    Post by Hobiesens on Mon May 09, 2016 12:51 pm

    Crawford confirmed as an assistant coach by Boucher himself.
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    Post by Hoff-Machine on Mon May 09, 2016 12:52 pm

    http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sens-want-to-make-it-clear-they-chose-boucher-over-boudreau-1.486386

    Ian Mendes wrote:Of course, there were other candidates – most notably, Bruce Boudreau, who had been recently fired by the Anaheim Ducks. Boudreau and Dorion met for nearly six hours on Friday and speculation ramped up on the weekend that the Senators had made a contract offer to Boudreau. When Boudreau opted to sign with the Minnesota Wild, the optics looked pretty bad for the Senators, as one report suggested Ottawa was not willing to give Boudreau a four-year contract offer.
    This set off alarm bells for Senators fans, who were convinced that the budget-conscious mind of owner Eugene Melnyk played a hand in losing out on Boudreau. But on Monday, Dorion explained that he never went deep into contract negotiations with Boudreau. Instead, he said it was more of a general discussion of “contract parameters” with the finalists, including Boudreau and Boucher.  Dorion noted that even when he was engaged in broad contract talks with the finalists, it was Boucher’s agent that he phoned first.

    On Saturday afternoon – after conferring one final time with Lee – Dorion said he opted to hire Boucher.
    “At a certain point in time with Bruce (Boudreau), I said, ‘It looks like I got my number one guy. You can go ahead if you have other offers,'" Dorion said.
    So if this timeline is to be taken at face value, the Senators passed on Bruce Boudreau – and not the other way around.
    “There was no doubt in my mind,” added Dorion. “This wasn’t a popularity contest. This was hire the best coach for the Ottawa Senators.”
    That version of events certainly comes as a surprise to the critics who were taking shots at the Senators thrifty ways on the weekend, when the Wild announced a four-year contract with Boudreau believed to be worth $11 million. Dorion insisted on Monday – as he has throughout the entire process – that money was never an obstacle in landing a head coach in Ottawa.

    “Mr. Melnyk – from the get go – made very clear to me, ‘Pierre you have the resources to hire the best coach,'" said Dorion. “If Mike Babcock or Joel Quenneville were out there and we felt they were the best coach, we would have hired them – no matter of salary or budgets.”

    Who does everyone believe?
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    Post by wprager on Mon May 09, 2016 1:12 pm

    It is exactly how I thought it went down. The term "contract parameters" is exactly what I was thinking. Very general ideas, barely a start to negotiations. Then Boudreau took that to Minnesota and they upped it. He called back to Dorion trying to get a "price match" and it's at this point it's not clear. It's possible that the Senators simply did not want to give a coach -- any coach -- 4 years; it's possible that Boudreau's actions indicated he wasn't the right fit; it's possible that Boucher was their first choice.

    I think it's a combination -- they thought very highly of Boucher, but Boudreau would have been a no-brainer w.r.t. answering the media and fan base. But they did not want Boudreau enough to enter into what could have become a bidding war (remember, there was also Calgary). Or maybe his repeated playoff losses tempered their enthusiasm -- go ahead and try to ignore it but it's there.

    Also, as I've said before, the fact that he didn't even wait for Calgary makes me think we did not want to work in Canada. Ottawa had his daughter which made it close but, ultimately, he wants more of his pay going to him and not the Liberals.


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    Post by Hoags on Mon May 09, 2016 1:14 pm

    I don't think Calgary even got permission to talk to Bruce. They're in the same division as Anaheim.

    Ducks wouldn't want to face him 6 times/season.
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    Post by LeCaptain on Mon May 09, 2016 1:18 pm

    I think Pierre Dorion, with that last sentence, just shut all the naysayers' mouths about Boucher being his favourite candidate and not Boudreau.
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    Post by wprager on Mon May 09, 2016 1:23 pm

    Whoa!

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    Paraphrasing Boucher in French, if you only work on weaknesses, strengths become lessened and you become an average team with no identity

    Anyone else feel like that's exactly what happened to the Senators?


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    Post by LeCaptain on Mon May 09, 2016 1:24 pm

    wprager wrote:Whoa!

    Аrpon Basu
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    Paraphrasing Boucher in French, if you only work on weaknesses, strengths become lessened and you become an average team with no identity

    Anyone else feel like that's exactly what happened to the Senators?

    Bobby Ryan being the N1 example
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    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 09, 2016 1:34 pm

    wprager wrote:Whoa!

    Аrpon Basu
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    Paraphrasing Boucher in French, if you only work on weaknesses, strengths become lessened and you become an average team with no identity

    Anyone else feel like that's exactly what happened to the Senators?

    Big time.
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    Re: Guy Boucher hired as Ottawa's head coach + Crawford signed as assistant

    Post by Flo The Action on Mon May 09, 2016 2:12 pm

    wprager wrote:Whoa!

    Аrpon Basu
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    Paraphrasing Boucher in French, if you only work on weaknesses, strengths become lessened and you become an average team with no identity

    Anyone else feel like that's exactly what happened to the Senators?

    Yeah, that's interesting.
    Actually the most optimal thing I'm seeing about Boucher that I didn't know is that he studied sports philosophy. That could be really interesting in developing a better locker room mentality and maximizing certain players.

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    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 09, 2016 2:21 pm

    Hobiesens wrote:Crawford confirmed as an assistant coach by Boucher himself.

    Missed this, and to add to that:

    #Sens GM Pierre Dorion confirms that new associate coach Marc Crawford will also act as a liaison between the coaching staff in Binghamton.

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