GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:51 am

    spader wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Hoff-Turris-Puempel
    Dzingel-Brass-Ryan
    Smith-Pageau-Stone
    Lazar-Kelly-Pyatt

    Man, this doesn't make sense at all

    Whatever works. TwoThumbsUp!

    Did this come from somewhere or is just BS speculation?

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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:13 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    spader wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Hoff-Turris-Puempel
    Dzingel-Brass-Ryan
    Smith-Pageau-Stone
    Lazar-Kelly-Pyatt

    Man, this doesn't make sense at all

    Whatever works. TwoThumbsUp!

    Did this come from somewhere or is just BS speculation?

    BS speculation. Is this our best lineup?

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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:15 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    spader wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Hoff-Turris-Puempel
    Dzingel-Brass-Ryan
    Smith-Pageau-Stone
    Lazar-Kelly-Pyatt

    Man, this doesn't make sense at all

    Whatever works. TwoThumbsUp!

    Did this come from somewhere or is just BS speculation?

    BS speculation. Is this our best lineup?

    I'd also ask where Mac fits in if/when he's back.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:20 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    spader wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Hoff-Turris-Puempel
    Dzingel-Brass-Ryan
    Smith-Pageau-Stone
    Lazar-Kelly-Pyatt

    Man, this doesn't make sense at all

    Whatever works. TwoThumbsUp!

    Did this come from somewhere or is just BS speculation?

    BS speculation. Is this our best lineup?

    I would say the best thing we can do at this point in time is roll with the lines we had last night for a while.  Let's try keeping the same lines together for maybe a 10 game stretch.  Cameron always talked about "consistency" and now Boucher is saying the same thing...one way to achieve that is to let the players stay with the same line mates for a while and work out the kinks that arise instead of just mixing and matching every other game.  

    I really liked our lines against Vancouver and vote to stick with them.  The one change you could make is remove Puempel and sub in Lazar.

    Hoff-Turris-Pyatt
    Dzingel-Brassard-Ryan
    Smith-Pageau-Stone
    Lazar-Kelly-Neil

    That.  Let's do that.  For a while. If Mac comes back, Lazar or Kelly could be yanked from the lineup without losing too much...Lazar can play centre on that 4th line.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by wprager on Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:00 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Hoff-Turris-Puempel
    Dzingel-Brass-Ryan
    Smith-Pageau-Stone
    Lazar-Kelly-Pyatt

    Man, this doesn't make sense at all

    Boucher has no affiliation, nor any affinity to Puempel. Is there anyone left who would have been involved in scouting/drafting Puempel? I realize Murray and Dorion are still here and would have been involved in the actual decision to take Puempel but he was their third selection in the round. Someone must have been pushing for him and I wonder if that would have been the guy that just went to Vegas.

    Man, that 2011 was brutal. They had three 1st round picks -- Zibanejad (gone), Noeson (gone) and Puempel (almost gone). Of those three only one has developed into an NHL-calibre player and he was dealt away because, frankly, he didn't pan out like they'd hoped. I still think it's too close to call at this point between Zibanejad and Scheifele (I'd rather have Scheifele but it's close), but Noesen and Puempel when you had Namestnikov and Kucherov (yeah, I know they were not drafting Russians) or Saad, Rackell, Trochek.

    We had four picks in the top-sixty and have Puempel left to show for it. Pageau (4th round) is set as our 3rd line center and Dzingel (7th round) is leading the team in goals.


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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:06 pm

    I personally don't know what the rush to call up Lazar is. Leave him down there for a month or more.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:11 pm

    PTFlea wrote:I personally don't know what the rush to call up Lazar is.  Leave him down there for a month or more.

    Or how about (dramatic pause) a whole season!!!! Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:14 pm

    Yeah, there's no rush that I can see. I think he'd be a bit of an upgrade on Puempel on the 4th line, that's it.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:23 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:I personally don't know what the rush to call up Lazar is.  Leave him down there for a month or more.

    Or how about (dramatic pause) a whole season!!!! Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!

    Sure, why not? His offense needs to be....honed...
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:24 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:Yeah, there's no rush that I can see.  I think he'd be a bit of an upgrade on Puempel on the 4th line, that's it.

    I thought Puempel was strong last night. I'd like to see him again vs Calgary to see if he can make use of his 8 minutes of icetime or whatever it was.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by wprager on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:37 pm

    PTFlea wrote:I personally don't know what the rush to call up Lazar is.  Leave him down there for a month or more.

    "Hello? This is the NHLPA. And this is called a grievance."


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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by wprager on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:38 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:Yeah, there's no rush that I can see.  I think he'd be a bit of an upgrade on Puempel on the 4th line, that's it.

    He would not be replacing a leftie.


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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by wprager on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:39 pm

    PTFlea wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:Yeah, there's no rush that I can see.  I think he'd be a bit of an upgrade on Puempel on the 4th line, that's it.

    I thought Puempel was strong last night.  I'd like to see him again vs Calgary to see if he can make use of his 8 minutes of icetime or whatever it was.

    Did he do something outstanding in periods 1 or 2? I watched 3 but mostly FFWd through 1 and 2. To be honest, I noticed Kelly and Neil more than Puempel.


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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by Oglethorpe on Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:33 pm

    wprager wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:I personally don't know what the rush to call up Lazar is.  Leave him down there for a month or more.

    "Hello?  This is the NHLPA.  And this is called a grievance."

    Would the grievance be over his hurt feelings, because there is no basis for a grievance in the CBA.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by MarkStone on Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:46 pm

    yeah they could leave him there until his contract is up
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by spader on Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:55 pm

    wprager wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:I personally don't know what the rush to call up Lazar is.  Leave him down there for a month or more.

    "Hello?  This is the NHLPA.  And this is called a grievance."

    On what basis could the NHLPA grieve a GM's decision? Do you know of a clause in the CBA that covers this situation? If it isn't in the CBA, it isn't subject to a grievance.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:45 pm

    There's no basis for a grievance. He wasn't sent there on a conditioning stint. He was sent there a few games before his waiver eligibility kicked in.
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    Re: GDT - Game #6: Sens @ Canucks Oct 25, 2016, 10:00pm

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:59 pm

    wprager wrote:
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    tim1_2 wrote:Yeah, there's no rush that I can see.  I think he'd be a bit of an upgrade on Puempel on the 4th line, that's it.

    I thought Puempel was strong last night.  I'd like to see him again vs Calgary to see if he can make use of his 8 minutes of icetime or whatever it was.

    Did he do something outstanding in periods 1 or 2?  I watched 3 but mostly FFWd through 1 and 2.  To be honest, I noticed Kelly and Neil more than Puempel.

    There was a shift - and I can't remember when - when he skated down one of the Canucks D-man in the Vancouver defensive zone and chased him around, then he went across ice and chased down the other defender until he forced a turnover. It was an excellent shift and based on his TOI, I'd say he plays Calgary for it.

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