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181 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:16 am

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Ron Hainsey traded from Carolina to Pittsburgh with 50% retained by Carolina - for a 2nd round pick and some dude (Kristo).

182 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:27 am

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PTFlea wrote:Ron Hainsey traded from Carolina to Pittsburgh with 50% retained by Carolina - for a 2nd round pick and some dude (Kristo).
I don't think Danny kristo is much to write home about. First drafted (I think in the second round) by the habs to be a scorer and I think he was part of that Gomez package an eternity ago. I don't even think he got resigned by the rags. Seems to have had success at the AHL level but for some reason he never gets a shot in the NHL.

So basically it's a 2nd round pick and an AHLer for hainsey.

My first thought was wow, thats expensive but I guess hainsey plays 22 minutes a night in Carolina. So you're basically getting a top 4 Dman for a 2nd rounder. It's a rental but ok. Sets the price at fair.

183 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:13 pm

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PTFlea wrote:Even Henrique is wearing out his welcome, I'd imagine.  Almost time to burn it to the ground and build around Zajac.Schneider/Hall/Severson.  What a sad place to play ice hockey.

I think they were hoping to rebuild around Travis "Pat" Zajac when they first starting sucking. What a mistake that was. Zajac? Really?! Laugh1 Laughing3

184 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:41 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
PTFlea wrote:Even Henrique is wearing out his welcome, I'd imagine.  Almost time to burn it to the ground and build around Zajac.Schneider/Hall/Severson.  What a sad place to play ice hockey.

I think they were hoping to rebuild around Travis "Pat" Zajac when they first starting sucking. What a mistake that was. Zajac? Really?! Laugh1 Laughing3

I recall that, yeah. Many mistakes made in that org. Hall for Larsson isn't one of them though, IMO. Neither was Schneider for Bo Horvat. But what a boring team otherwise. Barf.

185 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 pm

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PTFlea wrote:
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PTFlea wrote:Even Henrique is wearing out his welcome, I'd imagine.  Almost time to burn it to the ground and build around Zajac.Schneider/Hall/Severson.  What a sad place to play ice hockey.

I think they were hoping to rebuild around Travis "Pat" Zajac when they first starting sucking. What a mistake that was. Zajac? Really?! Laugh1 Laughing3

I recall that, yeah.  Many mistakes made in that org.  Hall for Larsson isn't one of them though, IMO.  Neither was Schneider for Bo Horvat.  But what a boring team otherwise. Barf.

I think you meant zacha anyways

186 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:03 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
PTFlea wrote:Even Henrique is wearing out his welcome, I'd imagine.  Almost time to burn it to the ground and build around Zajac.Schneider/Hall/Severson.  What a sad place to play ice hockey.

I think they were hoping to rebuild around Travis "Pat" Zajac when they first starting sucking. What a mistake that was. Zajac? Really?! Laugh1 Laughing3

I recall that, yeah.  Many mistakes made in that org.  Hall for Larsson isn't one of them though, IMO.  Neither was Schneider for Bo Horvat.  But what a boring team otherwise. Barf.

I think you meant zacha anyways

Zacha? But Schneider was traded for the pick that landed Horvat.  scratch

Either way, Schneider is a top 5 or 10 goalie in the league. He's worth Bo Horvat and then some. You're right, they've made some good moves.

187 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:10 pm

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Adrian Dater with a tantalizing couple of tweets:


I'm picking up more chatter about a potential Senators-Avs trade involving Duchene. We'll see


Sticking point on Avs-Sens trade for Duchene right now is White

188 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:10 pm

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Dater isn't really a breaker of trades or anything, but interesting nevertheless.

189 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:17 pm

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@RobillardMatt @adater I won't speak for AD but sure sounds like Ceci/2017 first/White are the principals.
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This is a Colorado blogger, who runs Mile High Hockey (I had to look that up, of course)

190 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:49 pm

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God I hope they can make something happens that doesn't envolve white! And I hope Duchesne wants to sign an extension

191 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:49 pm

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But it's nice to hear dorion keeps pushing

192 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:50 pm

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Give them two first or brown if you have to

193 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:51 pm

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How accurate is that rumour though? White + 1st + Ceci for Duchene and someone sounds like it's something both GMs might think about, but then, who would take Ceci's spot? Or does Ottawa have another deal ready to go? Or do they like Wideman there for now?

194 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:32 am

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PTFlea wrote:How accurate is that rumour though?  White + 1st + Ceci for Duchene and someone sounds like it's something both GMs might think about, but then, who would take Ceci's spot?  Or does Ottawa have another deal ready to go?  Or do they like Wideman there for now?

They should like Wideman, he's better than Ceci. But I'm sure they're looking at Brendan Smith just the same.

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195 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:55 am

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Saying the "sticking point" is Colin White...well that is a pretty BIG sticking point.

Also, Duchene would have very little motivation to sign an extension since this is his one chance to hit UFA right in the prime of his career.

196 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:24 am

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tim1_2 wrote:Saying the "sticking point" is Colin White...well that is a pretty BIG sticking point.

Also, Duchene would have very little motivation to sign an extension since this is his one chance to hit UFA right in the prime of his career.  

Disagree. He's from outside Toronto and will probably be happy to play closer to home. They probably won't re-sign Brassard when he's a UFA, and I imagine they will try to move Ryan between now and then. So while cap space seems tight right now, by the time he's a UFA the priority will be to sign him, Turris, and Karlsson. I get that's a lot of money but there's your core with Stone and Hoffman and, White, Brown and Chabot still on ELC's.

I feel as though Dorion can avoid trading White if it means adding in Lazar and Chlapik. Do you do it?

197 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:26 am

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tim1_2 wrote:Saying the "sticking point" is Colin White...well that is a pretty BIG sticking point.

Also, Duchene would have very little motivation to sign an extension since this is his one chance to hit UFA right in the prime of his career.  

Meanwhile, Colin White seems to have very little motivation to sign and ELC with Ottawa... MAKE THE DAMN DEAL!!!! Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!

198 Re: Ottawa Senators Trade Deadline Edition on Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:49 am

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Saying the "sticking point" is Colin White...well that is a pretty BIG sticking point.

Also, Duchene would have very little motivation to sign an extension since this is his one chance to hit UFA right in the prime of his career.  

Disagree. He's from outside Toronto and will probably be happy to play closer to home. They probably won't re-sign Brassard when he's a UFA, and I imagine they will try to move Ryan between now and then. So while cap space seems tight right now, by the time he's a UFA the priority will be to sign him, Turris, and Karlsson. I get that's a lot of money but there's your core with Stone and Hoffman and, White, Brown and Chabot still on ELC's.

I feel as though Dorion can avoid trading White if it means adding in Lazar and Chlapik. Do you do it?

He can play closer to home and still go to free agency.... And I don't think bundling Lazar (no value) and Chlapik makes up for not including White.

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