GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:33 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Ev wrote:My sens to win the east best at 25-1 is looking possible...

    I took 'em to win the Cup at 45-1.

    Back to last night's game, it obviously goes without saying that EK was phenomenal (as usual).  
    What a treat to watch karlsson, we're so lucky that he plays for our team and we get to watch him every night. 

    That sequence that lead to Hoffman's goal with Stone getting the puck back, Phaneuf dishing to karlsson and then karlsson passing toHoffman was neat to watch. 
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    Flo The Action wrote:La Cussing Marchand. Get the Diddle off pageau!

    Marchand and Bergeron were the only two Boston threats last night. Very noticeable on the ice. McQuaid also threw his weight around quite a bit. If we match up against Boston there is no reason why we can't beat them.

    I am also pretty confident that Pageau is one of the best shut-down forwards in the league. Between him and Burrows I see a lot of star players not wanting to match up against the Sens.

    So refreshing to have four solid lines to roll.  No neil, no lazar, just experienced nhl players.   Great stuff.

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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by Ev on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:09 am

    I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:32 am

    Ev wrote:I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

    What I find funny about the whole "The System" thing is that I have yet to read or watch a thorough explanation of what they're doing now.  I get certain aspects of it (pushing players to the outside, LD stepping up, etc), but how and why has no one broken down hockey Xs and Os into pictorials or videos and provided them to the general public?  We see this in football coverage ALL THE TIME, but it sure seems to be missing from hockey coverage.  Pierre McGuire actually explained a bit of it this morning on TGOR, but to understand this you need some sort of visual aid.

    Also, the Sens are pretty much where they would've been last year had Turris not got injured. Boucher also has better players at his disposal than Cameron did. I don't mean to diminish what Boucher and his staff are doing - I love it - but I think maybe a little too much is being made of it when we have a pretty solid team to start with.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:55 am

    Ev wrote:I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

    Aren't you, like, the only millennial on this board? Laugh1
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:57 am

    I love Boucher's system. You want to rush the puck right up the center of the ice? No way, you'll hit a wall either in the neutral zone or at our blueline and be forced to fan out to the boards. Want to cycle? Sure, we love to cycle too, prepare to take some punishment. Want to rip up the ice and try to chip it past the D-men? You better not do that on the left side, because one of our LDs are steaming up the ice ready to bury you - and note that they're always a forward behind the LD to protect against odd men.

    So now you have puck possession in our zone. You want to shoot bad, don't you? Well, you better prepare to shoot from an angle, because there's no f-ing way you're getting a shot through the center of the ice. Every single player will block 'the house', it's amazing to watch - and then Anderson is good enough to stop most angle shots.

    Beauty. It must be SO frustrating to play against! Clapping

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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:10 am

    PTFlea wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    Ev wrote:My sens to win the east best at 25-1 is looking possible...

    I took 'em to win the Cup at 45-1.

    Back to last night's game, it obviously goes without saying that EK was phenomenal (as usual).  
    What a treat to watch karlsson, we're so lucky that he plays for our team and we get to watch him every night. 

    That sequence that lead to Hoffman's goal with Stone getting the puck back, Phaneuf dishing to karlsson and then karlsson passing toHoffman was neat to watch. 
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    Flo The Action wrote:La Cussing Marchand. Get the Diddle off pageau!

    Marchand and Bergeron were the only two Boston threats last night. Very noticeable on the ice. McQuaid also threw his weight around quite a bit. If we match up against Boston there is no reason why we can't beat them.

    I am also pretty confident that Pageau is one of the best shut-down forwards in the league. Between him and Burrows I see a lot of star players not wanting to match up against the Sens.

    So refreshing to have four solid lines to roll.  No neil, no lazar, just experienced nhl players.   Great stuff.

    I made a point to watch Stalberg yesterday. He's quite talented and is an underrated passer. Kelly and Wingels both had a chance to bury a few pucks off Stalberg passes and didn't. Dzingel looked a little lost out there last night. Pyatt is a beast.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by spader on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:08 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I made a point to watch Stalberg yesterday. He's quite talented and is an underrated passer. Kelly and Wingels both had a chance to bury a few pucks off Stalberg passes and didn't. Dzingel looked a little lost out there last night. Pyatt is a beast.

    Ya, he isn't flashy, but he's producing out there. When he's on the ice, they definitely get chances. It would be interesting to see that line's corsi numbers.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:19 pm

    Ev wrote:I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:27 pm

    #thesystem
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by spader on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:29 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Ev wrote:I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

    What I find funny about the whole "The System" thing is that I have yet to read or watch a thorough explanation of what they're doing now.  I get certain aspects of it (pushing players to the outside, LD stepping up, etc), but how and why has no one broken down hockey Xs and Os into pictorials or videos and provided them to the general public?  We see this in football coverage ALL THE TIME, but it sure seems to be missing from hockey coverage.  Pierre McGuire actually explained a bit of it this morning on TGOR, but to understand this you need some sort of visual aid.

    Also, the Sens are pretty much where they would've been last year had Turris not got injured.  Boucher also has better players at his disposal than Cameron did.  I don't mean to diminish what Boucher and his staff are doing - I love it - but I think maybe a little too much is being made of it when we have a pretty solid team to start with.

    The players seem to know what to do in the d zone wheras that wasn't really the case in the past. Instead of players running around chasing the puck, they're clogging up lanes and seem to be acting on instinct. I don't care what you call it, the fact that the Sens are playing better without the puck makes me happy.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:41 pm

    spader wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    Ev wrote:I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

    What I find funny about the whole "The System" thing is that I have yet to read or watch a thorough explanation of what they're doing now.  I get certain aspects of it (pushing players to the outside, LD stepping up, etc), but how and why has no one broken down hockey Xs and Os into pictorials or videos and provided them to the general public?  We see this in football coverage ALL THE TIME, but it sure seems to be missing from hockey coverage.  Pierre McGuire actually explained a bit of it this morning on TGOR, but to understand this you need some sort of visual aid.

    Also, the Sens are pretty much where they would've been last year had Turris not got injured.  Boucher also has better players at his disposal than Cameron did.  I don't mean to diminish what Boucher and his staff are doing - I love it - but I think maybe a little too much is being made of it when we have a pretty solid team to start with.

    The players seem to know what to do in the d zone wheras that wasn't really the case in the past. Instead of players running around chasing the puck, they're clogging up lanes and seem to be acting on instinct. I don't care what you call it, the fact that the Sens are playing better without the puck makes me happy.

    I totally agree. I would just love some sort of in-depth explanation. There's plenty of times on defense when I yell at them to be more aggressive and skate at the guy with the puck, but I think they're more concerned on staying in the shooting lane and forcing the puck on the outside if they can. It's quite delicious. Last night Boston had a good minute in our o-zone with the clock ticking down...they were passing the puck around quickly, but nobody had a clear shot. I think eventually Karlsson blocked the shot when it did come and that lead to the empty netter.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:47 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:

    I totally agree.  I would just love some sort of in-depth explanation.  There's plenty of times on defense when I yell at them to be more aggressive and skate at the guy with the puck, but I think they're more concerned on staying in the shooting lane and forcing the puck on the outside if they can.  It's quite delicious.  Last night Boston had a good minute in our o-zone with the clock ticking down...they were passing the puck around quickly, but nobody had a clear shot.  I think eventually Karlsson blocked the shot when it did come and that lead to the empty netter.

    Big time. They just sit there in the prime shooting lanes down the middle and make opponents shoot from angles. It's really neat. Delicious even.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by wprager on Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:02 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Ev wrote:I cringe everytime somebody mentions "The system" now. Milennials, please stop.

    What I find funny about the whole "The System" thing is that I have yet to read or watch a thorough explanation of what they're doing now.  I get certain aspects of it (pushing players to the outside, LD stepping up, etc), but how and why has no one broken down hockey Xs and Os into pictorials or videos and provided them to the general public?  We see this in football coverage ALL THE TIME, but it sure seems to be missing from hockey coverage.  Pierre McGuire actually explained a bit of it this morning on TGOR, but to understand this you need some sort of visual aid.

    Also, the Sens are pretty much where they would've been last year had Turris not got injured.  Boucher also has better players at his disposal than Cameron did.  I don't mean to diminish what Boucher and his staff are doing - I love it - but I think maybe a little too much is being made of it when we have a pretty solid team to start with.

    Don't forget that we were missing Anderson for long stretches (remember how well the Habs did with Condon?) and we're missing Ryan.

    Last year we were a point out of second with a have in hand when Turris hurt. The Habs had already cooled off with Condon in goal. Back at the end of December we were *slightly* ahead of last year's place. Now we have pulled ahead quite a bit.


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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by wprager on Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:07 pm

    In addition to the LD stepping up for the big hit, on the right side you have the RD stepping up in the O zone to join the cycle or forecheck. Different roles but forwards always backing then up. On both sides.


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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:25 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:

    Also, the Sens are pretty much where they would've been last year had Turris not got injured.  Boucher also has better players at his disposal than Cameron did.  I don't mean to diminish what Boucher and his staff are doing - I love it - but I think maybe a little too much is being made of it when we have a pretty solid team to start with.

    Debatable. We'll never really know how good the sens could have been had Turris not gone down but there's no denying that our D-zone coverage was a tire fire, we were constantly allowing 35+ shots; Anderson was breaking sticks, Weircioch/Cowen were impacting the game, Boro sucked and was played as a forward for a couple games...it was odd and I don't think Turris alone could have saved what were glaring weaknesses

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    Don't forget that we were missing Anderson for long stretches (remember how well the Habs did with Condon?) and we're missing Ryan.

    Last year we were a point out of second with a have in hand when Turris hurt. The Habs had already cooled off with Condon in goal.  Back at the end of December we were *slightly* ahead of last year's place. Now we have pulled ahead quite a bit.

    Good point....Ryan at the first half of last season was actually fantastic and then tailed off....this year he never really got going either. I think the team feels more confident in the way they're playing and that's a big difference.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by spader on Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:41 pm

    Hoff-Machine wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:

    Also, the Sens are pretty much where they would've been last year had Turris not got injured.  Boucher also has better players at his disposal than Cameron did.  I don't mean to diminish what Boucher and his staff are doing - I love it - but I think maybe a little too much is being made of it when we have a pretty solid team to start with.

    Debatable.  We'll never really know how good the sens could have been had Turris not gone down but there's no denying that our D-zone coverage was a tire fire, we were constantly allowing 35+ shots; Anderson was breaking sticks, Weircioch/Cowen were impacting the game, Boro sucked and was played as a forward for a couple games...it was odd and I don't think Turris alone could have saved what were glaring weaknesses

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    Don't forget that we were missing Anderson for long stretches (remember how well the Habs did with Condon?) and we're missing Ryan.

    Last year we were a point out of second with a have in hand when Turris hurt. The Habs had already cooled off with Condon in goal.  Back at the end of December we were *slightly* ahead of last year's place. Now we have pulled ahead quite a bit.

    Good point....Ryan at the first half of last season was actually fantastic and then tailed off....this year he never really got going either.  I think the team feels more confident in the way they're playing and that's a big difference.  

    Ryan is an enigma. I think there's a decent chance the Sens will try to convince Vegas to take him if they can get around the no-trade/nmc clause.
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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:13 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:#thesystem

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    Re: GDT - Game #64: Bruins @ Sens, Mar 6, 2017, 7:30pm

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:25 pm

    spader wrote:
    Ryan is an enigma. I think there's a decent chance the Sens will try to convince Vegas to take him if they can get around the no-trade/nmc clause.

    There's nothing to get around. Ryan does not need to be protected and won't be protected.

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