PTFlea wrote:Flo The Action wrote:PTFlea wrote:wprager wrote:Ev wrote:wprager wrote:Ev wrote:Turris is a goner if he won't take a shorter deal. I don't want to sign him to 7 or 8 years.
That would be very sad. I would find it hard to believe he'd reject a 7 year deal; I'd have no issue giving him 5 years -- are the Sens dead-set against anything more? If they'd be willing to go 6, then they could structure a 7-year deal such that the last year is negligible.
And since Bobby Mac has come out and said he doubts they'll re-sign him, that puts a lot of pressure on the Sens to find a replacement (White/Brown could be it in a few years but we need to bridge a 2-3 year gap, maybe more); meanwhile Sakic heard the same reports, so the price for Duchene won't come down anytime soon.
He wouldn't reject that, the Sens wouldn't offer that is my point.
I was constructing a deal here. I said I doubt he would say no to anything other than an 8 year deal, so 7. Sens would want 5, but probably wouldn't say a hard no to 6. So make a 7 year deal front-loaded enough to be, effectively, a 6 year deal.
Or go after Tavares, as someone suggested on twitter.
A buddy thinks Turris + Ceci + White would get the ball rolling for Tavares. I seriously doubted it personally.
Even that is a hell of a price to pay for Tavares. Even extended. There’s arguments being made that Tavares isn’t even the player he was. His 5 on 5´s are going down. Besides, I don’t think the isles would care for Ceci.
White, à first and Turris would be ok as long as Tavares is extended but I have some doubts on Tavares.
He'd have to be extended IMO, but you do that deal in a heartbeat (again, IMO). Turris is an excellent, solid player - a 2-way player and a team guy, but under no circumstance would I commit to him for 8 years, or 7 years. Even 6 is pushing it for a wiry bodied guy like that. Again, if he wants 8 years, then I'd make him come down in price A LOT, like to 5.2 max. In any event, I wouldn't commit more than 35 ish million to him. Not a premiere top line C, more of a 2nd liner or a 1B and that's too much to pay for him IMO.
I'm a Turris fan and I think they buckle down and agree to a 6 million X 6 year extension. It's fair on all accounts. You want to try free agency to try to get that extra 7 million dollars over 7 years or whatever, then that's your choice, but soon this team will have some pretty heavy decisions to make and I guarantee they won't fret over this one all year.
I completely agree. On a great team Turris is a great 2nd line center. But this is the team we have now and for at least two years I don’t see anyone being able to step up and take that number 1 spot. brown won’t be close to that for another couple of years and that’s if even. The only way you move turris is for an upgrade. And I don’t see duchene as that person either. Duchene to me would make a perfect 1st line LW to turris, not his replacement.