GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

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    GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:51 am

    Karlsson. Is. Back.

    Boucher is still thinking about going with 7D tonight. Chabot and Jaros were sent to Belleville and Formenton was returned to junior, so the odd guy out right now will be Logan Brown if they go with 7 D.

    I would imagine the forward lines will be the same as last game. In practice yesterday, they had Karlsson paired with Phaneuf, Oduya with Ceci, and then the last three guys were Wideman/Boro/Claesson.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:59 am

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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:10 am

    Oh, I see. I was trying to figure out who would sit on D, but if he goes with 7 D, that takes care of that.

    And he should - from here on out. You can't really sit Claesson or Wideman IMO, they've both proven their worth. You could shoot Oduya to the moon, but clearly they're not gonna do that.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:06 pm

    Oduya is really good and will fit in well. The guy to sit would be Wideman since Boucher seems to have a bit of trust issues with him.

    Regardless, it sounds like Boucher's going with 7D and Brown will sit again.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by wprager on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:46 pm

    Wideman is tied for the team lead in goals and is 4th in points. He is also the third and last right-handed D-man we have on the roster. I'd prefer to not have Boro or even Phaneuf on their wrong side. But I'm not the coach, and Boucher definitely has trust issues when it comes to Wideman. He is last in average time on ice (Chabot is lower but he's a rookie, Oduya is lower but has only played a part of one game). So with the lowest ice time of all regular D-men Wideman is leading in goals and points, but he probably sits against a bigger opponent with Boro switching over to the right.

    You're killing me, Guy.


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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by Ev on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:52 pm

    Leading in points means nothing, Wideman's points have mostly all been PP, and he is a bad defender in most situations. He's another Wiercioch type but faster.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:20 pm

    Ev wrote:Leading in points means nothing, Wideman's points have mostly all been PP, and he is a bad defender in most situations. He's another Wiercioch type but faster.

    Id say hes a little less prone to mistakes than wiercioch, again wier played with Ceci and that was a mighty green pairing.
    But again, you can ask the question where is patty now?
    (And there is silence in the analytics community)
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:21 pm

    wprager wrote:

    You're killing me, Guy.

    I think Guy has proven to be a pretty great coach.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by wprager on Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:59 pm

    You realize I'm being facetious.


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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:20 pm

    Well that was disappointing. We did not deserve this result. But oh well plenty of times in the past year that we stole wins.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by wprager on Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:11 am

    Game was over in the first. 17 shots and nothing to show for it, then the trap game crept in. First game back home, Karlsson will win it for us, we deserve a break after getting 8 of 10 without him.

    PP was back to its usual "keep passing it to Erik". I knew it. 17K fans knew it. Canucks knew it. This ISS why it worked so well with Chabot. He helped set it up but once they were in the zone they looked to take a shot instead of passing it back all the time until the planets aligned and a perfect shot presented itself.


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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:53 am

    Deserved better.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:34 pm

    I was amazed with how tenacious Ottawa was on the puck, especially in the first period. They gave Vancouver zero time and space. It was great.

    The problem, as Guy stated afterwards, was that they just didn't jam the net enough and create a dirty goal.

    Also, Karlsson had that rocket off the post in the 3rd...then Vanek skates it down the other way and goes post and in on Anderson. Just one of those nights. We've outshot every opponent so far. Good times.
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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by wprager on Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:42 pm

    Second period was one to forget.

    Also the second goal was killer, especially since they scored it twice. I think the first one was very possibly not a high stick but instead of thanking their luck stars and buckling down they frittered away the opportunity. What was Karlsson thinking skating all the way out past the top of the circle and leaving the guy in front to tip it home?


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    Re: GDT: Canucks @ Senators - Oct 17, 2017, 7:30PM

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:20 pm

    If you have to lose, that's probably the way. Utter domination in the first

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