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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by Flo The Action on Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:40 pm

    22_4_ever wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:2 early 2nds would be great, is that accurate?

    They traded down 4 spots and added a mid 2nd rounder

    And still no one took noel.

    Really weird. Maybe theres something on him that teams know thats not out there?

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    Post by Ev on Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:44 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:
    22_4_ever wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:2 early 2nds would be great, is that accurate?

    They traded down 4 spots and added a mid 2nd rounder

    And still no one took noel.

    Really weird. Maybe theres something on him that teams know thats not out there?

    After the top 10 or whatever the draft is all over the place every year . Draft rankings especially mean nothing . Maybe Noel will be available at sens next pick

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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by Flo The Action on Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:56 pm

    Ev wrote:
    Flo The Action wrote:
    22_4_ever wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:2 early 2nds would be great, is that accurate?

    They traded down 4 spots and added a mid 2nd rounder

    And still no one took noel.

    Really weird. Maybe theres something on him that teams know thats not out there?

    After the top 10 or whatever the draft is all over the place every year . Draft rankings especially mean nothing . Maybe Noel will be available at sens next pick

    At 46? That would be nuts
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    Post by PTFlea on Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:14 pm

    Someone on HF was theorized that a couple of players could be traded tomorrow for 2 2nds. They didn't get the first they wanted for a couple of players, I assume. Skinner, Faulk, Lindholm, Pacioretty.
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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:15 pm

    Per ISS, Bernard-Docker is projected as a top-pair 2-way d-man:
    Size/Strength: Good
    Skating: Very Good
    Puck Skills: Very Good
    Shot: Very Good
    Offensive Play: Very Good
    Defensive Play: Very Good
    Physical: Play Good
    Competitiveness: Very Good
    Hockey Sense: Excellent

    Stole this from Twitter.
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    Post by PTFlea on Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:17 pm

    http://lastwordonhockey.com/2018/05/16/jacob-bernard-docker-scouting-report-2018-nhl-draft/

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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:16 am

    I'm surprised by the JBD pick. They could have probably drafted him in the mid to late 30s . Could have used that second and an asset to move down
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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by Flo The Action on Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:37 am

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm surprised by the JBD pick. They could have probably drafted him in the mid to late 30s . Could have used that second and an asset to move down

    Thats what I thought too but with so many picks coming out of left field maybe they didnt want to test their luck too much.
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    Post by tim1_2 on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:22 am

    I'm OK with the Tkachuk pick. I didn't think I would be, but I am. Nice to have a guy with high grit factor that can play in the top 6. At least if he isn't putting up points, we know that he'll be piledriving guys around the ice. I like to think of him as our answer to guys like Simmonds, Marchand, Gallagher, etc.

    It was also nice to see that all the "Insider" speculation about trades fell flat, again. I guess they need to learn that big deals rarely happen on the draft floor.
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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by 22_4_ever on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:26 am

    Flo The Action wrote:
    22_4_ever wrote:
    PTFlea wrote:2 early 2nds would be great, is that accurate?

    They traded down 4 spots and added a mid 2nd rounder

    And still no one took noel.

    Really weird. Maybe theres something on him that teams know thats not out there?

    No nothing about attitude or work habbits. He's more of a project than other players, so some teams are looking at higher skill for their 1st round pick. He's big, and loves to hit and can score. I think he's a diamond in the rough. I know the family and my son has been on the ice training with him in the past. He's respectful and hard working every time I've seen him on the ice. My kid looks up to him and has for years....he'll get drafted but is likely 4-5 years away from any NHL lineup.
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    Post by wprager on Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:00 am

    Must admit, I was not happy at first. But more than willing to let the kid prove me wrong. Guess I'm still concerned from the hype around White (who had better production and better results against the same calibre of competition.

    Tkachuk is bigger, and we need size up front (Bobby Ryan is big but not a great skater). I know that White is fast and hopefully so is Tkachuk.

    Team speed is everything in today's NHL and we just lost Hoffman, and still have Ryan. And, of course, Stone.


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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by wprager on Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:02 am

    As for B-D, if that's the guy they wanted more than any other in the next 20 on their list, best to go out and get him than risk losing him for a 3rd or 4th.


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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by PTFlea on Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:08 am

    Can't believe noel is still there.
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    Post by PTFlea on Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:26 am

    I was stunned when we didn't take zadina, and upset for some reason, but yeah, at least I knew something about Tkachuk
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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by PTFlea on Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:44 am

    I like the sound of our 2nd round pick. Loading up on dmen, which is a good thing

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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:11 pm

    Tkachuk has played with Brown and his brother with White. Said he knew Wideman as well. Apparently Zadina didn't do well in the combine and he shies away from the high contact areas.

    The positive of all this we have three American and three Canadian WJHC studs vying for spots next year. We could very well see a combination of Tkachuk, Brown, White, Burrows, MPS, Pyatt, Chalpik, McCormick, Formenton in the bottom six next year. There could be worse things.
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    Post by PTFlea on Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:16 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Tkachuk has played with Brown and his brother with White. Said he knew Wideman as well. Apparently Zadina didn't do well in the combine and he shies away from the high contact areas.

    The positive of all this we have three American and three Canadian WJHC studs vying for spots next year. We could very well see a combination of Tkachuk, Brown, White, Burrows, MPS, Pyatt, Chalpik, McCormick, Formenton in the bottom six next year. There could be worse things.

    Yeah, that was the sentiment from the minute we traded Brassard. Pageau with good linemates won't produce that much less than Brassard and then you open the hole at 3C for Brown to be eased into it gently - and now you have Tkachuk and White to start bolstering the lineup with some LONG overdue young, spirited bucks.
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    Re: 2018 NHL Entry Draft

    Post by Ev on Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:28 pm

    wprager wrote:Must admit, I was not happy at first. But more than willing to let the kid prove me wrong. Guess I'm still concerned from the hype around White (who had better production and better results against the same calibre of competition.

    Tkachuk is bigger, and we need size up front (Bobby Ryan is big but not a great skater). I know that White is fast and hopefully so is Tkachuk.

    Team speed is everything in today's NHL and we just lost Hoffman, and still have Ryan. And, of course, Stone.

    White doesnt have Tkachuks offense

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