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526 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:45 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
Also another question. Why on earth did it come down to the last minute with mark stone? Could they not get a clear indication he did not want to play for Ottawa anymore? How hard can that conversation be? Itís a simple yes or no. Isnít anyone else finding Dorion isnaptitude at managing players and their contract talks worrysome?

Itís most likely not a simple yes or no. He was probably struggling hard since he would have been our captain, this is the only team heís played for, was drafted by Ottawa, and has a girlfriend who was born and raised in Ottawa whose opinion plays a big role in the matter.

The only thing worrisome is the guy at the top

527 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:42 pm

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In 4 years there wouldn't even be a question of trading Brannstrom for Stone, you wouldn't do it - assuming brannstrom pans out like most think he will.

The other trades are more of a question

528 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:11 pm

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Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Lagoon wrote:Is anyone else still pissed we traded Columbus both Duchene and Dzingel and couldnít get Bemstrom included in the return? No? Ok, I will check back soon.
The stone deal is a top prospect and a 2ndofr 8years of markstone. Doesnít matter how you shake it, Vegas got a bargain. Iím happy with Brannstrom but we should have cashed a lot more. Oscar isnít likely staying and even if he does, big woopy.

We basically got 2 high B prospects with bustability and at best a mid level 1st for duchene.which is.... meh. The only way this turns into a good deal is if Duchene signs another contract with Columbus and they suck from hell to high water next year and we wind up with a top 5 pick from that conditional. But does anyone actually believe heís not gonna test the open market at this point?

You basically answered your question/concerns yourself. The return we got for Duchene was a return for a rental player most likely. It was a fair price in my opinion and Iíll be happy to get that first thatís going to be around 15-20. If Columbus misses the playoffs then they got hosed on the deal. And hell thereís still a decent chance Duchene returns to Ottawa although Iím not banking on that.

Dzingel, same thing, rental return but in that case it looks like they actually got a potentially comparable player in Duclair plus picks. Hes the only guy I would have traded even if they were a real team this year who signed Stone, Duchene etc

Doesnít really matter now, weíll see what the picks become in a few years down the road as well as the prospects we got.

Anything after 10 in this draft is a big drop in talent. Sure, it may be a 1st, but Iím still unimpressed with all things Sens lately.

529 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:48 pm

Ev

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Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Lagoon wrote:Is anyone else still pissed we traded Columbus both Duchene and Dzingel and couldnít get Bemstrom included in the return? No? Ok, I will check back soon.
The stone deal is a top prospect and a 2ndofr 8years of markstone. Doesnít matter how you shake it, Vegas got a bargain. Iím happy with Brannstrom but we should have cashed a lot more. Oscar isnít likely staying and even if he does, big woopy.

We basically got 2 high B prospects with bustability and at best a mid level 1st for duchene.which is.... meh. The only way this turns into a good deal is if Duchene signs another contract with Columbus and they suck from hell to high water next year and we wind up with a top 5 pick from that conditional. But does anyone actually believe heís not gonna test the open market at this point?

You basically answered your question/concerns yourself. The return we got for Duchene was a return for a rental player most likely. It was a fair price in my opinion and Iíll be happy to get that first thatís going to be around 15-20. If Columbus misses the playoffs then they got hosed on the deal. And hell thereís still a decent chance Duchene returns to Ottawa although Iím not banking on that.

Dzingel, same thing, rental return but in that case it looks like they actually got a potentially comparable player in Duclair plus picks. Hes the only guy I would have traded even if they were a real team this year who signed Stone, Duchene etc

Doesnít really matter now, weíll see what the picks become in a few years down the road as well as the prospects we got.

Anything after 10 in this draft is a big drop in talent. Sure, it may be a 1st, but Iím still unimpressed with all things Sens lately.

Thatís true for almost every draft though, and in this one the drop off is huge after the first two.

530 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:50 pm

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Also Iím on byfield bandwagon

531 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:09 pm

Lagoon

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Ev wrote:Also Iím on byfield bandwagon

Yes! I think I said that to you about two weeks ago.

532 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:48 pm

Ev

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Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:Also Iím on byfield bandwagon

Yes! I think I said that to you about two weeks ago.

Yeah I heard of him before but have watched his scouting film more and if heís even close to lafreniere in skill then youíd have to take that kind of huge skilled centre based on our need.

533 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:33 am

PTFlea

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Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Lagoon wrote:Is anyone else still pissed we traded Columbus both Duchene and Dzingel and couldnít get Bemstrom included in the return? No? Ok, I will check back soon.
The stone deal is a top prospect and a 2ndofr 8years of markstone. Doesnít matter how you shake it, Vegas got a bargain. Iím happy with Brannstrom but we should have cashed a lot more. Oscar isnít likely staying and even if he does, big woopy.

We basically got 2 high B prospects with bustability and at best a mid level 1st for duchene.which is.... meh. The only way this turns into a good deal is if Duchene signs another contract with Columbus and they suck from hell to high water next year and we wind up with a top 5 pick from that conditional. But does anyone actually believe heís not gonna test the open market at this point?

You basically answered your question/concerns yourself. The return we got for Duchene was a return for a rental player most likely. It was a fair price in my opinion and Iíll be happy to get that first thatís going to be around 15-20. If Columbus misses the playoffs then they got hosed on the deal. And hell thereís still a decent chance Duchene returns to Ottawa although Iím not banking on that.

Dzingel, same thing, rental return but in that case it looks like they actually got a potentially comparable player in Duclair plus picks. Hes the only guy I would have traded even if they were a real team this year who signed Stone, Duchene etc

Doesnít really matter now, weíll see what the picks become in a few years down the road as well as the prospects we got.

Anything after 10 in this draft is a big drop in talent. Sure, it may be a 1st, but Iím still unimpressed with all things Sens lately.

It's such a crapshoot in the first round though, I dont know if you can say that with any certainty.

534 Re: TRADE DEADLINE BONANZA 2019! on Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:13 pm

DefenceWinsChampionships


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Ev wrote:
Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:Also Iím on byfield bandwagon

Yes! I think I said that to you about two weeks ago.

Yeah I heard of him before but have watched his scouting film more and if heís even close to lafreniere in skill then youíd have to take that kind of huge skilled centre based on our need.

I like the fact he's not in the Q and he's putting up excellent numbers in his first year in juniors. 13 points more in 2 less games than the second highest leading scorer in Sudbury. But hard to pass on a guy who puts up 100+ points as a 17 year old. I'd be happy with both, personally.

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