Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

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    Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by Phoenix30 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:30 pm

    http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabresnhl/story/481712.html

    I found this interesting on Spector. He doesn't believe its possible and I would have to agree. What I think would make more sence would be a Fisher, Kelly, and a 1st for Bow and Mathias or another young center. I guess time will tell what Murray will do. Anyone have any pyschic friends who could tell us the future of the Sens. Now that would be interested to see what someone has to say about their future.

    http://www.spectorshockey.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=260:latest-on-sundin-and-kovalchuk&catid=34:articles&Itemid=55
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by smash88 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:34 pm

    Phoenix30 wrote:http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabresnhl/story/481712.html

    I found this interesting on Spector. He doesn't believe its possible and I would have to agree. What I think would make more sence would be a Fisher, Kelly, and a 1st for Bow and Mathias or another young center. I guess time will tell what Murray will do. Anyone have any pyschic friends who could tell us the future of the Sens. Now that would be interested to see what someone has to say about their future.

    http://www.spectorshockey.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=260:latest-on-sundin-and-kovalchuk&catid=34:articles&Itemid=55

    I really can't see Murray moving Spezza... Dosen't make sense...
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by mattshock on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:37 pm

    Matthias would look good here!!

    Seems almost too good to be true.

    EDIT: I'm talking the Fisher/Kelly deal.

    I haven't read the Spezza proposition yet.
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by Phoenix30 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:39 pm

    smash88 wrote:
    Phoenix30 wrote:http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabresnhl/story/481712.html

    I found this interesting on Spector. He doesn't believe its possible and I would have to agree. What I think would make more sence would be a Fisher, Kelly, and a 1st for Bow and Mathias or another young center. I guess time will tell what Murray will do. Anyone have any pyschic friends who could tell us the future of the Sens. Now that would be interested to see what someone has to say about their future.

    http://www.spectorshockey.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=260:latest-on-sundin-and-kovalchuk&catid=34:articles&Itemid=55

    I really can't see Murray moving Spezza... Dosen't make sense...

    I agree but if it meant getting Bow and Sundin who knows, but it wouldn't address the second line scoring. Thats why I think it would be more reasonable to send fisher and Kelly, both who can be replaced by Bass and another call up.
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by mattshock on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:45 pm

    I wouldn't do it for Bow and Sundin.

    No way. Sundin has MAYBE 2 years left in the tank, Spezza has 5+, for comparable point output.

    No way I make that deal.
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by Phoenix30 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:52 pm

    mattshock wrote:Matthias would look good here!!

    Seems almost too good to be true.

    EDIT: I'm talking the Fisher/Kelly deal.

    I haven't read the Spezza proposition yet.

    HMMM,

    Fisher, Kelly, Schubert, and a 1st for Bow, Mathias and a mid range pick. Then sign Sundin

    Now that sounds awesome.

    Heater - Spezza - Vermette
    Folingo - Sundin - Alfie
    Ruutu - Mathias - Neil
    Donovan - Bass - McAmmond
    Winchester

    Sorry I had to check it out
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by Cronie on Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:57 pm

    what?! Spezza rumors...AGAIN!!!?!

    Who's the source on this one?
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by mattshock on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:03 pm

    Maybe if we demote Gerbs and bring up Elliott.

    3,236,004 capspace
    Fisher + Kelly + Schubert = 7.183333M freed up
    Bouw = $4.875

    Leaving $5.544M to sign Sundin.

    I don't think Mathias is ready for NHL action just yet, so I think it would look more like:

    Heatley - Spezza - Vermette
    Foligno - Sundin - Alfredsson
    Ruutu - Bass - Neil
    Winchester - Donovan - McAmmond

    Phillips - Bouwmeester
    Kuba - Pickard
    Volchenkov - Smith

    Auld
    Elliott/Gerber

    We'd have to move Gerber's salary if Sundin wants more than $5.5M. Looks great on paper though.
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by Phoenix30 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:06 pm

    mattshock wrote:Maybe if we demote Gerbs and bring up Elliott.

    3,236,004 capspace
    Fisher + Kelly + Schubert = 7.183333M freed up
    Bouw = $4.875

    Leaving $5.544M to sign Sundin.

    I don't think Mathias is ready for NHL action just yet, so I think it would look more like:

    Heatley - Spezza - Vermette
    Foligno - Sundin - Alfredsson
    Ruutu - Bass - Neil
    Winchester - Donovan - McAmmond

    Phillips - Bouwmeester
    Kuba - Pickard
    Volchenkov - Smith

    Auld
    Elliott/Gerber

    We'd have to move Gerber's salary if Sundin wants more than $5.5M. Looks great on paper though.

    Man that looks good. Too dream.
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by mattshock on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:19 pm

    It's contingent on many things happening that I'm pretty sure one/more wouldn't happen.

    1) Florida has to agree to play ball. They have to be happy with Fisher, Kelly, and a 1st for thier top D-man and a top prospect. Eek! Mathias is realistically not within the reasonable realms of this deal. Try a lesser prospect or a 2nd coming back and maybe we're in business.
    2) Fisher waives to go to Florida. Good. Luck.
    3) If 1 and 2 magically happen, we have to sign Sundin for less money than he could get somewhere else to a struggling team that is currently not in the playoffs. Hmmm.

    If we do make the trade and Sundin doesn't come, we are VERY thin down the middle. We would almost certainly have to call up a forward from the farm to fill a top-6 role. That could be interesting.

    So yeah, some dreaming involved, but you never know.
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    Post by PTFlea on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:23 pm

    1. Diddle the goddamn Spezza rumours. Damn.

    2. Fisher has a NMC, not a no-trade, a no-MOVEMENT clause. You think he wants to leave and will waive it? No.
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    Post by smash88 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:25 pm

    504Heater wrote:1. Diddle the goddamn Spezza rumours. Damn.

    2. Fisher has a NMC, not a no-trade, a no-MOVEMENT clause. You think he wants to leave and will waive it? No.

    Especially not to Florida! LOL and especially not after they lose JBo....
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by Phoenix30 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:30 pm

    504Heater wrote:1. Diddle the goddamn Spezza rumours. Damn.

    2. Fisher has a NMC, not a no-trade, a no-MOVEMENT clause. You think he wants to leave and will waive it? No.

    I think he would waive his NMC in the right situation. He saw the back lash that Redden took so you would think he may not want to go down that road. Especially when he isnt scoring at the moment. He might consider a fresh start as a good thing.
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    Post by PTFlea on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:32 pm

    smash88 wrote:
    Especially not to Florida! LOL and especially not after they lose JBo....

    Exactly. Plus...do we gas Fisher because he hasn't scored in 9 games? Really? To me it sounded like he had a great game against TB. He desperately needs to score, but we all know he's going to.

    I suggest we wait and if something comes up that we need to move salary, there's Gerber and if the deal is big enough perhaps Vermette - and if the deal gets super-sized then there's Kelly, Kuba.

    Certainly moving Fisher is a bad move. We've gotta be patient!
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    Re: Rumor of Spezza moving closer to the trade block????

    Post by mattshock on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:33 pm

    Yup, my suggestions were whacky speculation at it's worst.

    Fisher and Spezza are going NOWHERE, but that won't stop the rumours from constantly creeping up.

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