Kessel to The Leafs

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:21 pm

http://tsn.ca

So glad I'm not a Leafs fan.

by Bramlet07 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:30 pm

I hope they overpay for him.

by shabbs on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:33 pm

N4L wrote:http://tsn.ca

So glad I'm not a Leafs fan.

Tell me they don't need him though. Desperately.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:33 pm

If they gave up a first round pick for him, Burke should be fired tomorrow.

by shabbs on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:40 pm

N4L wrote:If they gave up a first round pick for him, Burke should be fired tomorrow.

Going to be interesting to see what he offers up.

What are the rumoured offerings?

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:43 pm

2 1st +

by **marakh** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:54 pm

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:01 pm

I hope for my sake as a leaf fan this is a nasty rumor. We are so bad this year we will have a lottery shot a taylor hall. Plus whatever else Burke gives Boston. I hate being a leaf fan. At least I have Calgary too

by asq2 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:05 pm

N4L wrote:If they gave up a first round pick for him, Burke should be fired tomorrow.

Kessel was a 5th overall pick. They haven't been bad enough to get a pick that high in either of the past two seasons. Now they've added Kessel, and Komisarek, and Gustavsson, and so on, and you think their first-round pick is going to be anything close to Kessel?

Sometimes I think we just badmouth the Leafs moves because they're the Leafs. I remember, for example, that many posters on this site (and the others I frequent, to be fair), were excited at the prospect of landing Bozak when rumours surfaced in the Sens' interest. As soon as the Leafs signed him, we completely dismissed him. The opposite happened for Kovalev.

by asq2 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:06 pm

If it's 2 1sts +, then the deal starts looking worse. But Kessel for the Leafs 2010 first round pick? I'd do that in a heart-beat.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:12 pm

asq2 wrote:
N4L wrote:If they gave up a first round pick for him, Burke should be fired tomorrow.

Kessel was a 5th overall pick. They haven't been bad enough to get a pick that high in either of the past two seasons. Now they've added Kessel, and Komisarek, and Gustavsson, and so on, and you think their first-round pick is going to be anything close to Kessel?

Sometimes I think we just badmouth the Leafs moves because they're the Leafs. I remember, for example, that many posters on this site (and the others I frequent, to be fair), were excited at the prospect of landing Bozak when rumours surfaced in the Sens' interest. As soon as the Leafs signed him, we completely dismissed him. The opposite happened for Kovalev.

I dont think highly of Kessel at all so. I think the kid will be nothing more then an offensive, under sized forward who doesnt have the chracter to make a real impact in the league.

Can't stand Kessel.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:20 pm

cloverleaf wrote:I hope for my sake as a leaf fan this is a nasty rumor. We are so bad this year we will have a lottery shot a taylor hall. Plus whatever else Burke gives Boston. I hate being a leaf fan. At least I have Calgary too

That's EXACTLY how I look at it.

by **hemlock** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:24 pm

asq2 wrote:If it's 2 1sts +, then the deal starts looking worse. But Kessel for the Leafs 2010 first round pick? I'd do that in a heart-beat.

I'd have to agree that the Leafs won't be as bad as a lottery team. I think they've made some improvements to ensure that and Kessel (for not roster assets) should help as well. I'm not a fan of the guy's overall game but he can put the puck in the net. The Leafs have to do something because they can't go into the season with Jason Blake as their biggest offensive threat.

That story didn't mention 2 1sts, so where is this coming from does anyone know?

by shabbs on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:25 pm

cloverleaf wrote:I hope for my sake as a leaf fan this is a nasty rumor. We are so bad this year we will have a lottery shot a taylor hall. Plus whatever else Burke gives Boston. I hate being a leaf fan. At least I have Calgary too

Well, landing Kessel will probably push you out of lottery range and into 9-10 range.

TSN is saying they have reached an agreement. No details though.

by jamvan on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:26 pm

It's going to be two 1st rounders 2010 and 2011 and a 2nd rounder for Kessel and a 3rd rounder.

by shabbs on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:27 pm

jamvan wrote:It's going to be two 1st rounders 2010 and 2011 and a 2nd rounder for Kessel and a 3rd rounder.

Holy moly.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:30 pm

jamvan wrote:It's going to be two 1st rounders 2010 and 2011 and a 2nd rounder for Kessel and a 3rd rounder.

Awesome. Good day for Sens fans.

EDIT: Actually, not it isnt. Boston is just going to load up with top 10 picks... The Leafs made themselves worse and Boston better...

This is just going to prolong the suffering.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:32 pm

Worse in the long term... just so I dont get ripped.

by **marakh** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:20 pm

No way Kessel is worth that, 1 first and a 1 second I do it, 2 1sts is basically getting back to JFJ.
As I said, unlessKadri beomes what he should become, no way Kessel is gonna carry this team.

by **SpezDispenser** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:44 pm

jamvan wrote:It's going to be two 1st rounders 2010 and 2011 and a 2nd rounder for Kessel and a 3rd rounder.

You're kidding, they gave up 2 1sts and a 2nd? Jesus... Facepalm

Thanks for making the Bruins the best team for the next decade. Diddle.

by Hockeyhero22000 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:51 pm

according to tsn 1st and 2nd rounder this year and a first next
year
kessel also signs a 5 year 27M contract

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=291601

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:54 pm

Hahahahaha, Leafs are such a joke.

by shabbs on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:54 pm

I'll say it again... holy moly.

by Hockeyhero22000 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:55 pm

very bad deal overpaid to get him to toronto then overpaid him on his contract thats approx 5.4M a year

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:58 pm

Wonder what that 30 goal scorer is going to do without Savard or Krejci feeding him the puck... Kadri better be some center.

by **marakh** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:03 pm

Bozak better start watching KEssel on videos tonight.

by Sens19 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:16 pm

Wow didn't think Burke would actually do it. What happened to rebuilding, I guess he's content with the team and prospects he already has. Something also tells me Kadri is going to be a full time Leaf this season

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:22 pm

Go take a look at Capgeek.com. Some salary has to be moved out.

by **hemlock** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:09 pm

Staggering. I don't know what's worse, his contract or the price they paid to get him. He won't even be ready to play until November. I bet there are alot of puzzled Leaf fans right now trying to figure out what Burke's direction is.

by **marakh** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:23 pm

The damage control on Hockeybuzz is gonna give me a pretty cool firday night at home

by **marakh** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:29 pm

SO Burke gave Kessel the same contract as Getzlaf. I hope he doesn't expect the same impact.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:51 pm

Is it ironic or just foreshadowing that on the same day this happens, TSN releases their 2010 draft rankings. I guess its not ironic yet, but it sure would piss me the Diddle off if I were a Leaf fan. I'm kind of angry as a Sens fan because this just made the Bruins a much better team in the future. Burke is either a genius or a mother Diddling idiot...either way:

by **hemlock** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:56 pm

CCgotITcovered wrote:Is it ironic or just foreshadowing that on the same day this happens, TSN releases their 2010 draft rankings. I guess its not ironic yet, but it sure would piss me the Diddle off if I were a Leaf fan. I'm kind of angry as a Sens fan because this just made the Bruins a much better team in the future. Burke is either a genius or a mother Diddling idiot...either way:

Cast my vote for idiot. As if the two 1sts and a 2nd wasn't enough, he overpaid by a million per I'd say.

And as N4L pointed out earlier, he's got no centreman to play with. Kessel will be weeping for Mark Savard by Christmas.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:11 pm

hemlock wrote:
CCgotITcovered wrote:Is it ironic or just foreshadowing that on the same day this happens, TSN releases their 2010 draft rankings. I guess its not ironic yet, but it sure would piss me the Diddle off if I were a Leaf fan. I'm kind of angry as a Sens fan because this just made the Bruins a much better team in the future. Burke is either a genius or a mother Diddling idiot...either way:

Cast my vote for idiot. As if the two 1sts and a 2nd wasn't enough, he overpaid by a million per I'd say.

And as N4L pointed out earlier, he's got no centreman to play with. Kessel will be weeping for Mark Savard by Christmas.

Yeah I was thinking about that when I heard about it on the drive home. I don't see how Toronto could continue to be such a clusterfuck through so many regime changes. What a disaster.

by **dennycrane** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:17 pm

IF Kessel can stay healthy, I don't think it's that bad of a deal. It's surprising that Boston could get so much when they didn't have a great bargaining position. On straight percentages, one of the two 1st round picks would be a good NHL player, and who knows about the second pick. And those players likely wouldn't have an impact until 2012 at the earliest. Kessel will be in his 4th season as a Leaf by then.

Still, Burke overpaid, but at least he overpaid for something he desperately needed. We'll see in a few years if he was right or not.

by **marakh** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:19 pm

dennycrane wrote:IF Kessel can stay healthy, I don't think it's that bad of a deal. It's surprising that Boston could get so much when they didn't have a great bargaining position. On straight percentages, one of the two 1st round picks would be a good NHL player, and who knows about the second pick. And those players likely wouldn't have an impact until 2012 at the earliest. Kessel will be in his 4th season as a Leaf by then.

Still, Burke overpaid, but at least he overpaid for something he desperately needed. We'll see in a few years if he was right or not.

And would have eaten 22 million for 4 years without postseason

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:24 pm

I haven't read the thread yet but its possible asq or someone else has already said that: this move certainly hasn't turned the Leafs into a contender, has only pushed them a little closer to the playoff bubble, and may have cost them Hall, Fowler, Kabanov, McFarland, etc.

This could end up being the boneheaded move of all boneheaded moves. Someone said it (I think SD) when this was first rumoured: So much for a slow and steady rebuild in TO

by **SpezDispenser** on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:31 pm

Why did he do it? I can understand the need for a top-tiered winger, but Kessel's injured and not coming back until November, not to mention that injuries seem to be a concern around Kessel. Why not wait until the UFA period next year? Surely there's not the most intense pressure on Burke to make them a contender in one off-season. These things take time and patience - and draft picks. Lots of them, 1sts, 2nds - whatever you can get your hands on. It's rare to see a 'middle of the pack' team give a 1st up - especially their own. Why not wait? So odd.

by Guest on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:39 pm

He's an arrogant douchebag?? Thats my guess.

by asq2 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:42 pm

CCgotITcovered wrote:I haven't read the thread yet but its possible asq or someone else has already said that: this move certainly hasn't turned the Leafs into a contender, has only pushed them a little closer to the playoff bubble, and may have cost them Hall, Fowler, Kabanov, McFarland, etc.

This could end up being the boneheaded move of all boneheaded moves. Someone said it (I think SD) when this was first rumoured: So much for a slow and steady rebuild in TO

Actually, I've been more supportive of their attempts to get Kessel, but I agree they overpaid.