Gerber and Bell waived

As per SENS Chirp

Again, no big surprise. This is professional courtesy.

Four players waived in 20 minutes.

Nycholat was picked up by the Flames.

No big surprise? Really? I am surprised Bell is being waived. Question is, why?

Is Picard coming in? Did they need to waive him to make room? Cap space? I don't think so.

Gerber's not a surprise, though him being re-called sure was, at least when he went unclaimed. That left me scratching my head.

It's not like the Sens are up to a big move here come tomorrow. And I'd be surprised now to see Chris Neil get dealt for anything after Roberts was waived.

I expect both Gerber and Bell to clear, sadly...

Why Bell? And how is that professional courtesy?

someone is more likely to stab at Bell for defensive depth rather than Gerber.

But if Picard is out indefinitely as reported, then we are down to 5 D, including Kuba, who should not be playing if there is a trade. And Schubert is replacing Donovan, so he'd be, at best, a 7th D. Except we don't have a 6th.

Oh, I see -- from IceChips:

Shean Donovan was a healthy scratch at Tuesday's practice but could see
game action tonight against the Flames if Brendan Bell get's claimed
off waivers. If so, Donovan could be playing, with Schubert being moved
to defence.

McKenzie says that he thinks Buffalo will pick up Gerber (on the Team 1200).

I'm so f-ing confused. Why Bell? What's he up to?

To make things worse - doesn't it lower the value of Kuba, since it takes one buyer off the market (the one who picks up Bell)?

On the flip side - does he take Roberts, and drop to the end of the waiver line? Or one of the others who were waived?

504Heater wrote:McKenzie says that he thinks Buffalo will pick up Gerber (on the Team 1200).

I hope so. While Gerber was a bust for the Sens, he's a class act.

I'd really like to see him get another crack with another team. Buffalo makes sense with Miller out and Lalime taking a beating.

Bell has a 2-way, I don't know the rules specific to his case personally.

The only guy Murray should even think about is Voros as a possible quasi-replacement for Neil IMO.

If a player like Bell or Gerber is on waivers, it means the parent club has little interest in the player and they haven't been able to trade them. The waiver wire can allow a player to maybe get picked up by a contender.

Speaking of Gerber, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This would be the worst tandem in the history of the NHL.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/2009/03/new_life_for_gerber_with_maple.html

Hmmm... Philly's looking for a new goalie, why not try taking Toskala off of the Leafs hands if they wanna move him?

Bell played his role pretty well tonight. I would really like to resign him to another 2way contract.

RobbyJ wrote:Bell played his role pretty well tonight. I would really like to resign him to another 2way contract.

Aside from his one horrific mistake, he was quite solid. Especially considering he came back after riding the pine for a while.

Good job Bell.

504Heater wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:Bell played his role pretty well tonight. I would really like to resign him to another 2way contract.

Aside from his one horrific mistake, he was quite solid. Especially considering he came back after riding the pine for a while.

Good job Bell.

I know Bell played well, but we can't possibly keep on with this path, right? We're committed to Phillips and Volchenkov as shutdown guys. We're committed to Campoli, and for now we're committed to Lee. It is for this reason alone that we must trade Kuba, possibly trade Gator, and let Bell move on. Don't even get me started on Picard. If Murray is truly going to fix our problems, he's going to have to trade away guys we like. If we have 5 of the same 6 defencemen back, we're no better off.

Blow your wad on a trade for a defenceman and fill the sixth spot with a warm body for cheap. Well, maybe Bell fits in after all...

duffyforever wrote:I know Bell played well, but we can't possibly keep on with this path, right? We're committed to Phillips and Volchenkov as shutdown guys. We're committed to Campoli, and for now we're committed to Lee. It is for this reason alone that we must trade Kuba, possibly trade Gator, and let Bell move on. Don't even get me started on Picard. If Murray is truly going to fix our problems, he's going to have to trade away guys we like. If we have 5 of the same 6 defencemen back, we're no better off.

Blow your wad on a trade for a defenceman and fill the sixth spot with a warm body for cheap. Well, maybe Bell fits in after all...

Exactly, we are going to have to part with somebody we like otherwise we're going to see similar results. The culture of this team has to change.

duffyforever wrote:
I know Bell played well, but we can't possibly keep on with this path, right? We're committed to Phillips and Volchenkov as shutdown guys. We're committed to Campoli, and for now we're committed to Lee. It is for this reason alone that we must trade Kuba, possibly trade Gator, and let Bell move on. Don't even get me started on Picard. If Murray is truly going to fix our problems, he's going to have to trade away guys we like. If we have 5 of the same 6 defencemen back, we're no better off.

Blow your wad on a trade for a defenceman and fill the sixth spot with a warm body for cheap. Well, maybe Bell fits in after all...

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. Bell has played himself into a contract for the Sens (assuming he isn't looking for a pay increase of much) as a 7th D-man - or a guy that can challenge for one of the spots in the bottom 2.

I agree, get rid of Kuba, maybe access the Picard scenario, but definitely get a number one D-man for the top pairing. Someone who can shoulder 23, 24 25 minutes with skill and precision. Not the sloppy mess we have back there.

504Heater wrote:

duffyforever wrote:
I know Bell played well, but we can't possibly keep on with this path, right? We're committed to Phillips and Volchenkov as shutdown guys. We're committed to Campoli, and for now we're committed to Lee. It is for this reason alone that we must trade Kuba, possibly trade Gator, and let Bell move on. Don't even get me started on Picard. If Murray is truly going to fix our problems, he's going to have to trade away guys we like. If we have 5 of the same 6 defencemen back, we're no better off.

Blow your wad on a trade for a defenceman and fill the sixth spot with a warm body for cheap. Well, maybe Bell fits in after all...

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. Bell has played himself into a contract for the Sens (assuming he isn't looking for a pay increase of much) as a 7th D-man - or a guy that can challenge for one of the spots in the bottom 2.

I agree, get rid of Kuba, maybe access the Picard scenario, but definitely get a number one D-man for the top pairing. Someone who can shoulder 23, 24 25 minutes with skill and precision. Not the sloppy mess we have back there.

It worries me a bit about the Ohlund rumours that date back to last summer. Is this guy really that good? Pardon my ignorance, but he doesn't come with much more fanfare than a Kuba, does he?

I don't really know where my opinion on the question stands yet, but I wonder if Murray is still holding to his guns that he doesn't want to take on a long-term deal. We know that Boyle and Campbell slipped last year based on term alone, not dollar amount. Does he still believe that approach is right, or has he changed his tune? That is a tough effing job, man.

duffyforever wrote:
It worries me a bit about the Ohlund rumours that date back to last summer. Is this guy really that good? Pardon my ignorance, but he doesn't come with much more fanfare than a Kuba, does he?

I don't really know where my opinion on the question stands yet, but I wonder if Murray is still holding to his guns that he doesn't want to take on a long-term deal. We know that Boyle and Campbell slipped last year based on term alone, not dollar amount. Does he still believe that approach is right, or has he changed his tune? That is a tough effing job, man.

You'd have to ask Neely and guys like that. From what I've seen of Ohlund, he's a 20+ minute guy who's a carbon copy of Kuba's style - but plays with a real physical edge.

Basically the biggest knock on Kuba and Ohlund does it with aplomb. So yeah, from what I know of him, he's a pretty good upgrade.

I have reservations that he could be the number one guy we need, but people would argue for sure. Plus he's Swedish which would make for a killer top pairing in the future with Karlsson.

Ohlund is physical, can provide a bit of offense, good in his own zone, and enough expierence that it will be benifical to the young D coming up in Ottawa.

Ohlund would be a good guy to have here for a bit while the Sens go through their transition/rebuild.

Neely4Life wrote:Ohlund is physical, can provide a bit of offense, good in his own zone, and enough expierence that it will be benifical to the young D coming up in Ottawa.

Ohlund would be a good guy to have here for a bit while the Sens go through their transition/rebuild.

Is he a number one defenceman?

Neely4Life wrote:Ohlund is physical, can provide a bit of offense, good in his own zone, and enough expierence that it will be benifical to the young D coming up in Ottawa.

Ohlund would be a good guy to have here for a bit while the Sens go through their transition/rebuild.

Sounds good but would Ohlund really want to endure a transition period? I think he'd rather play for a cup contender.

duffyforever wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Ohlund is physical, can provide a bit of offense, good in his own zone, and enough expierence that it will be benifical to the young D coming up in Ottawa.

Ohlund would be a good guy to have here for a bit while the Sens go through their transition/rebuild.

Is he a number one defenceman?

Maybe a number 2, not a number 1 though. Unless the Sens go out and sign J Bo, we wont be getting a number 1 guy.

Neely4Life wrote:

duffyforever wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Ohlund is physical, can provide a bit of offense, good in his own zone, and enough expierence that it will be benifical to the young D coming up in Ottawa.

Ohlund would be a good guy to have here for a bit while the Sens go through their transition/rebuild.

Is he a number one defenceman?

Maybe a number 2, not a number 1 though. Unless the Sens go out and sign J Bo, we wont be getting a number 1 guy.

I was listening to a guy from Vancouver on the Team today and he was talking about how much Ohlund's game has deteriorated this year. I'd be okay with a 3 year deal, but anymore term than that and I'd take a pass.

I dont think you can give the guy 5, 6 years, but he would def help this team defense right now.

Neely4Life wrote:I dont think you can give the guy 5, 6 years, but he would def help this team defense right now.

He's making 3.5M this year, I wonder what it might take to get him. I do believe he is one of Murray's main targets this summer.

I would prob say about 4.5, 5 will get him, but again, it all depends what happens over the next 4 months. I have no clue.

Bell with two assists last night. Maybe we should have played Gerber, would have probably gotten a 2-0 shutout with Bell getting assists on both goals.

Gerber claimed off waivers by Toronto from Ottawa

Dash wrote:Gerber claimed off waivers by Toronto from Ottawa

Madness. Toskala must be injured or going somewhere...

Good for Gerber, hope he can play well there and get a backup job next year. Good pickup for Toronto.

If he couldn't handle the pressure in Ottawa, how is he going to handle it in Toronto?

He isn't

The Guy With The Mustache wrote:He isn't

Let's hope he does. I don't want the Leafs passing us in the draft rankings.

My concern exactly.

apparently bell was waived so he can play in the ahl playoffs if they need him down there....from Bryan murrays press conference