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Stewart is impressive, love his game thus far. Im gonna check out the game tonight to watch Svatos and enjoy Duchene (the best player from that draft)

Well Svatos can still skate.

N4L wrote:Well Svatos can still skate.

Like the wind.

Svatos just made a great play and fed it to Statsny... he still has something for sure.

Meh, I think Svatos has played 8 minutes so far. Not a great game to get a good look, but from little I've seen I've liked. Particularly his play to Stastny.

N4L wrote:Svatos just made a great play and fed it to Statsny... he still has something for sure.

Yeah, wish he was playing a little more, but I've been impressed.

I meant to say he doesn't appear to be floating in the least out there. Is that the knock or are injuries the only knock on him?

SpezDispenser wrote:I meant to say he doesn't appear to be floating in the least out there. Is that the knock or are injuries the only knock on him?

His big knock is his inconsistency, which he really isn't overly.

M_Christopher wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I meant to say he doesn't appear to be floating in the least out there. Is that the knock or are injuries the only knock on him?

His big knock is his inconsistency, which he really isn't overly.

What separates a superstar from a star from a role player. *sigh*...you can't cure that at this point in his career.

But you can stick him on a line with Alfie and Spezza and see what happens.

Perron has looked like rubbish. I can see why he's a chip that's in play (if that was true).

SpezDispenser wrote:

M_Christopher wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I meant to say he doesn't appear to be floating in the least out there. Is that the knock or are injuries the only knock on him?

His big knock is his inconsistency, which he really isn't overly.

What separates a superstar from a star from a role player. *sigh*...you can't cure that at this point in his career.

But you can stick him on a line with Alfie and Spezza and see what happens.

He seems like one of those players that will excel in a new enviroment a la a Rich Peverly

M_Christopher wrote:
He seems like one of those players that will excel in a new enviroment a la a Rich Peverly

Hard to say, he might just fade away completely, but again, really like what I've seen the last two games I've watched.

Ok got me sold Stavos and a 3rd for Lee.

From spectorshockey.net:

THE TENNESSEAN: John Glennon reports the Nashville Predators are facing decisions about perhaps bolstering their roster for the stretch run by adding a scorer or a penalty-killer and whether they should trade one of their pending UFAs (Dan Ellis, Pekka Rinne, Dan Hamhuis). Glennon doubts the Predators would get much back in return for any of the latter by the deadline and at this point it appears management will retain them. Given their recent 2-6-1 record they might tweak to bolster their depth.

Does anyone know if we have any penalty killers to spare?

Thanks in advance.

SeawaySensFan wrote:From spectorshockey.net:

THE TENNESSEAN: John Glennon reports the Nashville Predators are facing decisions about perhaps bolstering their roster for the stretch run by adding a scorer or a penalty-killer and whether they should trade one of their pending UFAs (Dan Ellis, Pekka Rinne, Dan Hamhuis). Glennon doubts the Predators would get much back in return for any of the latter by the deadline and at this point it appears management will retain them. Given their recent 2-6-1 record they might tweak to bolster their depth.

Does anyone know if we have any penalty killers to spare?

Thanks in advance.

Cheechoo?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:From spectorshockey.net:

THE TENNESSEAN: John Glennon reports the Nashville Predators are facing decisions about perhaps bolstering their roster for the stretch run by adding a scorer or a penalty-killer and whether they should trade one of their pending UFAs (Dan Ellis, Pekka Rinne, Dan Hamhuis). Glennon doubts the Predators would get much back in return for any of the latter by the deadline and at this point it appears management will retain them. Given their recent 2-6-1 record they might tweak to bolster their depth.

Does anyone know if we have any penalty killers to spare?

Thanks in advance.

Cheechoo?

Noted.

Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

N4L wrote:Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

You don't even have a complete 2nd line but you wouldn't trade one of our 20 3rd/4th liners? OK.

I guess we're supposed to trade untradeable players and unwanted prospects to upgrade this team? Interesting philosophy.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:From spectorshockey.net:

THE TENNESSEAN: John Glennon reports the Nashville Predators are facing decisions about perhaps bolstering their roster for the stretch run by adding a scorer or a penalty-killer and whether they should trade one of their pending UFAs (Dan Ellis, Pekka Rinne, Dan Hamhuis). Glennon doubts the Predators would get much back in return for any of the latter by the deadline and at this point it appears management will retain them. Given their recent 2-6-1 record they might tweak to bolster their depth.

Does anyone know if we have any penalty killers to spare?

Thanks in advance.

Cheechoo?

Noted.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

You don't even have a complete 2nd line but you wouldn't trade one of our 20 3rd/4th liners? OK.

I guess we're supposed to trade untradeable players and unwanted prospects to upgrade this team? Interesting philosophy.

Depending on the return I think you consider trading one of Kelly or Shannon. I mean, if it meant that someone like Cheechoo is packaged going the other way and we pick up a legit top-six that we can re-sign then I think it has to be considered.

For instance, if it was Cheechoo and Kelly for say... Patrick Sharp, I think you do it... We'll miss Kelly's penalty killing but we add a top-six and lose a a heavy contract. Not saying this would happen but you have to consider trading everyone on the team but a few staples at this point if it means improving your team for the future.

Still very curious to see what BM does with A-Train.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

You don't even have a complete 2nd line but you wouldn't trade one of our 20 3rd/4th liners? OK.

I guess we're supposed to trade untradeable players and unwanted prospects to upgrade this team? Interesting philosophy.

Depends what your getting back... Are there any forward in Nashville that would be a better fit on The Sens top 2 lines the a Kelly or Shannon would if they were dealt? Not any that Nashville would be willing to give up.

All depends on the return but I would trade Kelly for some rental nor would I trade Shannon at that cap hit right now. They are both playing solid hockey and Kelly is having a career year.

Kovalfie wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

You don't even have a complete 2nd line but you wouldn't trade one of our 20 3rd/4th liners? OK.

I guess we're supposed to trade untradeable players and unwanted prospects to upgrade this team? Interesting philosophy.

Depending on the return I think you consider trading one of Kelly or Shannon. I mean, if it meant that someone like Cheechoo is packaged going the other way and we pick up a legit top-six that we can re-sign then I think it has to be considered.

For instance, if it was Cheechoo and Kelly for say... Patrick Sharp, I think you do it... We'll miss Kelly's penalty killing but we add a top-six and lose a a heavy contract. Not saying this would happen but you have to consider trading everyone on the team but a few staples at this point if it means improving your team for the future.

Still very curious to see what BM does with A-Train.

Cheechoo and Kelly for Patrick Sharp? Why????

Sharp is a great PKer, and Chicago takes on salary to acquire a guy no one wants (Cheechoo) and gives up the best player? Enough said.

There is no chance Cheechoo is part of a deal for a T6F unless we are trading one of our prized kids and need him to balance salary. To that I say:

Kovalfie wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

You don't even have a complete 2nd line but you wouldn't trade one of our 20 3rd/4th liners? OK.

I guess we're supposed to trade untradeable players and unwanted prospects to upgrade this team? Interesting philosophy.

Depending on the return I think you consider trading one of Kelly or Shannon. I mean, if it meant that someone like Cheechoo is packaged going the other way and we pick up a legit top-six that we can re-sign then I think it has to be considered.

For instance, if it was Cheechoo and Kelly for say... Patrick Sharp, I think you do it... We'll miss Kelly's penalty killing but we add a top-six and lose a a heavy contract. Not saying this would happen but you have to consider trading everyone on the team but a few staples at this point if it means improving your team for the future.

Still very curious to see what BM does with A-Train.

Thats the big one for me as well. I think Murray may risk trying to resign him and perhaps move Kuba in the summer, that could mean buying out Cheechoo.

I will say that if Shannon needs to be moved in order to secure a PMD then let's do it. Shannon and Lee To Minny for Kim Johnsson.

Johnsson is a pending UFA, so we'd have some options at year's end too.

N4L wrote:Thats the big one for me as well. I think Murray may risk trying to resign him and perhaps move Kuba in the summer, that could mean buying out Cheechoo.

Then Murray is a fool.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Thats the big one for me as well. I think Murray may risk trying to resign him and perhaps move Kuba in the summer, that could mean buying out Cheechoo.

Then Murray is a fool.

Depends what has taken place thus far. If he needs to find the funds by moving Kuba then so be it. Kuba is expendable and has a fairly reasonable salary for teams to pick up. If Murray thinks he can resign A Train he will ride it out. If not he will deal him.

N4L wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Wouldnt give up Kelly or Fisher, they are 100% earning their money this year, especially Kelly who will prob hit the 15 goal mark, with a good stretch could hit 20. I dont think that was even in the relm of possibility for him to ever do that, he may come close. I wouldnt trade off anyone from those bottom 2 lines in all honesty.

You don't even have a complete 2nd line but you wouldn't trade one of our 20 3rd/4th liners? OK.

I guess we're supposed to trade untradeable players and unwanted prospects to upgrade this team? Interesting philosophy.

Depending on the return I think you consider trading one of Kelly or Shannon. I mean, if it meant that someone like Cheechoo is packaged going the other way and we pick up a legit top-six that we can re-sign then I think it has to be considered.

For instance, if it was Cheechoo and Kelly for say... Patrick Sharp, I think you do it... We'll miss Kelly's penalty killing but we add a top-six and lose a a heavy contract. Not saying this would happen but you have to consider trading everyone on the team but a few staples at this point if it means improving your team for the future.

Still very curious to see what BM does with A-Train.

Thats the big one for me as well. I think Murray may risk trying to resign him and perhaps move Kuba in the summer, that could mean buying out Cheechoo.

A-Train is a tough call. Trading him happens only under two scenarios imo: Either we are totally out of the playoff picture (looking unlikely) or to make the team better (sure we could land a PMD, but we'd be worse defensively)

However, losing him for nothing in July is not an option. Volchie is my favorite Sen (next to God), but I'd probably be alright with moving him to Phoenix for Michalek and something else. I'd roll the dice on Michalek resigning.

A-Train is a huge part of our defence that I think has protected to some extent from the crappy goaltending we've had all year.

He's also one of the more entertaining players when he's laying out the big hits, from a fan, ticket sales perspective.

We need to keep him, if we trade him, our goalies will have to be even sharper and I think our GA will go up, and this team doesn't have the consistent offence to slack off on defense.

It doesn't sound like they're even talking so BM way be putting it off til our season is done.

Hoags wrote:A-Train is a huge part of our defence that I think has protected to some extent from the crappy goaltending we've had all year.

He's also one of the more entertaining players when he's laying out the big hits, from a fan, ticket sales perspective.

We need to keep him, if we trade him, our goalies will have to be even sharper and I think our GA will go up, and this team doesn't have the consistent offence to slack off on defense.

It doesn't sound like they're even talking so BM way be putting it off til our season is done.

God I hope not. I don't want to go into the offseason with an unsigned Volchie. That's a real risk.

Hoags wrote:A-Train is a huge part of our defence that I think has protected to some extent from the crappy goaltending we've had all year.

He's also one of the more entertaining players when he's laying out the big hits, from a fan, ticket sales perspective.

We need to keep him, if we trade him, our goalies will have to be even sharper and I think our GA will go up, and this team doesn't have the consistent offence to slack off on defense.

+1 - you said it!

N4L wrote:
Thats the big one for me as well. I think Murray may risk trying to resign him and perhaps move Kuba in the summer, that could mean buying out Cheechoo.

To me, that's the slam dunk way of taking care of things. But whenever it's that easy, there's usually a catch somewhere.

SensGirl11 wrote:

Hoags wrote:A-Train is a huge part of our defence that I think has protected to some extent from the crappy goaltending we've had all year.

He's also one of the more entertaining players when he's laying out the big hits, from a fan, ticket sales perspective.

We need to keep him, if we trade him, our goalies will have to be even sharper and I think our GA will go up, and this team doesn't have the consistent offence to slack off on defense.

+1 - you said it!

I think winning games is more entertaining than the odd big hit and this team can barely keep their goal differential on the + side. You can get a king's ransom for Volchenkov and acquire Andy Sutton for not much.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I think winning games is more entertaining than the odd big hit and this team can barely keep their goal differential on the + side. You can get a king's ransom for Volchenkov and acquire Andy Sutton for not much.

I don't know SSF, apparently there's a lineup of teams forming for Sutton.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I think winning games is more entertaining than the odd big hit and this team can barely keep their goal differential on the + side. You can get a king's ransom for Volchenkov and acquire Andy Sutton for not much.

I don't know SSF, apparently there's a lineup of teams forming for Sutton.

Same goes for Volchenkov, reportedly.

BM seems confident that he'll stay, I dunno.

He may want to clear some room on our salary cap before talking numbers first.

The team is exceeding expectations this year, let's not forget Murray was going to blow up the team last year until Clouston righted the ship.

Him and Neil are the only big hitters on the team, we do need a physical presence on our blue line to make opposing forwards wary of blindly entering our zone.

Milan's brother is a good alternative if he'd come here but I don't think he lays people out like A-train (few people do).

Winning games is fun but I think Eugene and the Sens' marketing team would like there to be some 'fan favorites' in the lineup.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I think winning games is more entertaining than the odd big hit and this team can barely keep their goal differential on the + side. You can get a king's ransom for Volchenkov and acquire Andy Sutton for not much.

I don't know SSF, apparently there's a lineup of teams forming for Sutton.

Same goes for Volchenkov, reportedly.

Yeah but Ottawa's in a playoff spot and he has a lot to do with it. The Isles have bottomed out and are in prime position to trade some veteran contracts for picks/prospects/younger players.

Islanders are starting to get a stable of prospects coming in. If that team gets a new arena they could very well be New York's choice in terms of what the most popular team is. I would rather be an Islanders fan then a Rangers fan at this point. Snow has done a lot with very little, still surprised how well he has done as a GM.

N4L wrote:Islanders are starting to get a stable of prospects coming in. If that team gets a new arena they could very well be New York's choice in terms of what the most popular team is. I would rather be an Islanders fan then a Rangers fan at this point. Snow has done a lot with very little, still surprised how well he has done as a GM.

That is a huge issue. There's nothing going on in a positive way towards getting a new arena is there?

N4L wrote:Islanders are starting to get a stable of prospects coming in. If that team gets a new arena they could very well be New York's choice in terms of what the most popular team is. I would rather be an Islanders fan then a Rangers fan at this point. Snow has done a lot with very little, still surprised how well he has done as a GM.

I agree, that initially seemed to be the world's biggest lame duck appointment. He has exceeded the low expectations.

It'd be nice if we could get Mark Streit from the Isles (assuming we could afford him). Ditch Kuba first.

SpezDispenser wrote:Yeah but Ottawa's in a playoff spot and he has a lot to do with it. The Isles have bottomed out and are in prime position to trade some veteran contracts for picks/prospects/younger players.

In my opinion he would benefit the team more by being traded for scoring help. That's the biggest hole right now.

I don't know who is interested but if the Blues are one of those teams, I would simply ask for Roman Polak as part of the package, if it were the Wild, Zanon actually has more hits and blocked shots, if it's Dallas, Skrastins and Grossman do the same job...

There are a lot of cheaper options out there.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
In my opinion he would benefit the team more by being traded for scoring help. That's the biggest hole right now.

I don't know who is interested but if the Blues are one of those teams, I would simply ask for Roman Polak as part of the package, if it were the Wild, Zanon actually has more hits and blocked shots, if it's Dallas, Skrastins and Grossman do the same job...

There are a lot of cheaper options out there.

Yeah, can't really argue with that, but A-Train's a cut above any of these guys - or a few cuts above actually. He can play the game at top speed, lay a guy out and still be in position. It's not easily replaced.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
In my opinion he would benefit the team more by being traded for scoring help. That's the biggest hole right now.

I don't know who is interested but if the Blues are one of those teams, I would simply ask for Roman Polak as part of the package, if it were the Wild, Zanon actually has more hits and blocked shots, if it's Dallas, Skrastins and Grossman do the same job...

There are a lot of cheaper options out there.

Yeah, can't really argue with that, but A-Train's a cut above any of these guys - or a few cuts above actually. He can play the game at top speed, lay a guy out and still be in position. It's not easily replaced.

I don't disagree. One just has to decide how many millions a few cuts is worth.