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SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Forget it, I dont' want Kubina at all. that's 11 million for the two...

Kubina's awesome, that would be a great partner for Kuba or Carkner.

I like him too, but he makes 5Millions dollars per for the next 4 years.

SpezDispenser wrote:

sens4win wrote:if he loved him so much he should have pulled the trigger on the edmonton heatley offer and not care about heatley's feelings

He did pull the trigger. Heatley vetoed it, remember?

i don't like remembering the days of heatley

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Forget it, I dont' want Kubina at all. that's 11 million for the two...

Kubina's awesome, that would be a great partner for Kuba or Carkner.

I like him too, but he makes 5Millions dollars per for the next 4 years.

Isn't he a UFA at the end of the year?

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Forget it, I dont' want Kubina at all. that's 11 million for the two...

Kubina's awesome, that would be a great partner for Kuba or Carkner.

I like him too, but he makes 5Millions dollars per for the next 4 years.

Kubina is an UFA this summer.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Forget it, I dont' want Kubina at all. that's 11 million for the two...

Kubina's awesome, that would be a great partner for Kuba or Carkner.

I like him too, but he makes 5Millions dollars per for the next 4 years.

Isn't he a UFA at the end of the year?

ya he is

Slava Kozlov is a healthy scratch again tonight. Man oh man, I'll take him.

SpezDispenser wrote:Slava Kozlov is a healthy scratch again tonight. Man oh man, I'll take him.

Yeah, I'd swap Cheechoo for him in a heartbeat.

Urkie wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Slava Kozlov is a healthy scratch again tonight. Man oh man, I'll take him.

Yeah, I'd swap Cheechoo for him in a heartbeat.

Please.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Forget it, I dont' want Kubina at all. that's 11 million for the two...

Kubina's awesome, that would be a great partner for Kuba or Carkner.

I like him too, but he makes 5Millions dollars per for the next 4 years.

Isn't he a UFA at the end of the year?

My bad, i was reading the page wrong.

Question - since there is 2 weeks off from Feb 15th to deadline day, does deadline day get pushed further?

SensFan71 wrote:

The Montagoose wrote:ok so who is the wizard

I am glad I am not the only one on the outside looking in on that one.

off topic, cute emoticon useage there sg11

I love him!!!

SensGirl11 wrote:Question - since there is 2 weeks off from Feb 15th to deadline day, does deadline day get pushed further?

March 3rd.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Question - since there is 2 weeks off from Feb 15th to deadline day, does deadline day get pushed further?

March 3rd.

one day to the Olympics, woot. *prays to the hockey gods that no Ottawa Senators gets hurt during the tournament*

SpezDispenser wrote:Slava Kozlov is a healthy scratch again tonight. Man oh man, I'll take him.

From what I've read Kozlov might be acquired by LA to fill Frolov's spot, who is expected to be dealt as well.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Slava Kozlov is a healthy scratch again tonight. Man oh man, I'll take him.

From what I've read Kozlov might be acquired by LA to fill Frolov's spot, who is expected to be dealt as well.

Really? Kozlov has a NTC that he refused to move last deadline. Will he this time? And...can we have Frolov please?

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Slava Kozlov is a healthy scratch again tonight. Man oh man, I'll take him.

From what I've read Kozlov might be acquired by LA to fill Frolov's spot, who is expected to be dealt as well.

Really? Kozlov has a NTC that he refused to move last deadline. Will he this time? And...can we have Frolov please?

Being a healthy scratch can motivate a player to waive his NTC. LA is a pretty exciting team too. It may be a fit.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Being a healthy scratch can motivate a player to waive his NTC. LA is a pretty exciting team too. It may be a fit.

Yeah, I suppose.

According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

It probably will be one of those LOW risk (won't cost much in a trade) HIGH potential reward scenarios. Depending on what was sent to the AVs I'd consider it.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

It probably will be one of those LOW risk (won't cost much in a trade) HIGH potential reward scenarios. Depending on what was sent to the AVs I'd consider it.

Lee is being mentioned.

I'm definitely NOT in favour of adding a reclamation project when our top scorer is at 19 goals. Might as well forfeit the 1st round in the playoffs.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

It probably will be one of those LOW risk (won't cost much in a trade) HIGH potential reward scenarios. Depending on what was sent to the AVs I'd consider it.

Lee is being mentioned.

I'm definitely NOT in favour of adding a reclamation project when our top scorer is at 19 goals. Might as well forfeit the 1st round in the playoffs.

Lee for Svatos I'd definitely do. I agree with you if that was the only deal Murray planned on making then it's not going to help our playoff hopes though.

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

what if it was Svatos for Cheechoo and Lee?

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

I'm telling ya, a few people on here have been 'scouting' (ha ha) the Avs and watching Svatos pretty closely and he's looked really, really good. Still has a lot to offer.

DirtyDave wrote:
what if it was Svatos for Cheechoo and Lee?

Svatos is a UFA after this season, why would they take on Cheechoo's $3M contract for next season when they can be rid of Svatos $2M this season ?

No, no! Diddle this, I hear Liles and Svatos for Cheechoo +. Diddle that upside down, Liles had been a healthy scratch on a team who's coach is VERY similar to Clouston in terms of hard work. No, no, no!!!!

Oh thank goodness, I think that rumour's just from some fanboy. Diddle off with Liles please.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

It probably will be one of those LOW risk (won't cost much in a trade) HIGH potential reward scenarios. Depending on what was sent to the AVs I'd consider it.

Lee is being mentioned.

I'm definitely NOT in favour of adding a reclamation project when our top scorer is at 19 goals. Might as well forfeit the 1st round in the playoffs.

Lee for Svatos I'd definitely do. I agree with you if that was the only deal Murray planned on making then it's not going to help our playoff hopes though.

I wouldn't mind taking a shot on Frolov if we could get him. LA might be inclined to do a Frolov for Cheechoo and SJ 2nd. Frolov looks like he's walking at the end of the year and a $3 million cap hit on LA for a year is nothing to them. Makes a lot of sense on both sides as Ottawa is likely going to buy Cheechoo out this summer anyway, and if we don't resign Frolov all we're giving up is a second for a rental. I'd much rather see Lee go than a 2nd but given LA's defensive depth I see that being pretty unlikely.

Could see Lee going to Chicago with Ladd, Versteeg, or Byfuglien coming back. Chicago NEEDS to trim salary and they're going to get screwed in the off-season if they wait that long. Wouldn't be shocked to see Ladd for Lee+WInchester.

Don't believe the LA wants Cheechoo BS. They're getting the Wizard soon and they'll re-sign him, so the last thing they want is Cheechoo's salary next year.

SeawaySensFan wrote:According to senschirp Svatos to Ottawa is "picking up steam."

There'll be steam, alright. From the swirly, stinky pile that is Svatos.

so skeptical, we can't have the deal that Ek was pitching a few days ago of Lecavalier, we all know he is full of okay, where did the horse excrement go? I can't make my point visually without it lol

Yeah, we lost that smiley. It was sad times.

Repeat after me, everybody: NOBODY is talking Cheechoo off our hands. Just stop making up "player X for Cheechoo+" scenarios, 'cause it just ain't happening!

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

I would be interested in Svatos on the cheap. It's about the biggest move up front we can honestly expect BM to make. Given the way the team is playing and our super-limited cap space, BM isn't going to really change the make up of the room by making major subtractions and he doesn't have the space to add too much.

SSF, you've got to temper your expectations. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. OTT is not in a position to make major moves at the deadline this year.

Not much BONANZA material today. Even sadder times.

I think tonight's game will have a pretty good effect on Murray's targets for the deadline. A 4-0 Washington win will probably make him push harder for a svatos/whitney, but a 5-4 loss type of game will probably make him sit back.

marakh wrote:I think tonight's game will have a pretty good effect on Murray's targets for the deadline. A 4-0 Washington win will probably make him push harder for a svatos/whitney, but a 5-4 loss type of game will probably make him sit back.

I can't imagine he's that short-sighted and reactionary. BM has been saying for a while (as he seems to every year) that we need another top 6er, if possible. He hasn't really said anything about the D, but I think he's fooling himself if he doesn't think we need another defenceman, too. Picard/Campoli are our weakest links. We need one more reliable option.

Problem for BM is, he's got to make those moves for cheap, at least salary wise, and he can't be giving away important pieces to our future (1sts, Cowens, etc.). BM will be making smallish moves this deadline, if he makes any at all. I don't see how he does anything else.

rooneypoo wrote:Repeat after me, everybody: NOBODY is talking Cheechoo off our hands. Just stop making up "player X for Cheechoo+" scenarios, 'cause it just ain't happening!

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

I would be interested in Svatos on the cheap. It's about the biggest move up front we can honestly expect BM to make. Given the way the team is playing and our super-limited cap space, BM isn't going to really change the make up of the room by making major subtractions and he doesn't have the space to add too much.

SSF, you've got to temper your expectations. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. OTT is not in a position to make major moves at the deadline this year.

I'm already disappointed that nothing has been done already. I've never advocated a major move. Adding a Top-2 LW to a lineup that only has one is not a big deal and subtracting a tradeable asset like Hands of Stone Kelly or Volchenkov wouldn't hurt us as much as people would have you think.

Dallas is ripe to be picked clean, and they won't be the only seller. For that reason alone, BM is in a fine position to make impactful changes.

SpezDispenser wrote:Yeah, we lost that smiley. It was sad times.

you had to put blackie down? it was her leg wasn't it?

rooneypoo wrote:

marakh wrote:I think tonight's game will have a pretty good effect on Murray's targets for the deadline. A 4-0 Washington win will probably make him push harder for a svatos/whitney, but a 5-4 loss type of game will probably make him sit back.

I can't imagine he's that short-sighted and reactionary. BM has been saying for a while (as he seems to every year) that we need another top 6er, if possible. He hasn't really said anything about the D, but I think he's fooling himself if he doesn't think we need another defenceman, too. Picard/Campoli are our weakest links. We need one more reliable option.

Problem for BM is, he's got to make those moves for cheap, at least salary wise, and he can't be giving away important pieces to our future (1sts, Cowens, etc.). BM will be making smallish moves this deadline, if he makes any at all. I don't see how he does anything else.

First, I don't think it's short-sighted and reactionnary. It's not like one game will make him pull the trigger, but I would hope that depending on how the team reacts against the most powerfull offense in the league in the last 3 years, it will have an impact on his decisions.

Second, I think he already (on hockeycentral 2 days ago IIRC) said that defense-wise he's not gonna do anything, but I've learned to not take anything he says for granted, especially at this time of the year.

Last thing, I think a Shannon + SJ 2nd could fetch a svatos, since we have more than 1.5M in cap space at the moment. I don't know how smallish is that for you, but That's the kind of trade I expect.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Repeat after me, everybody: NOBODY is talking Cheechoo off our hands. Just stop making up "player X for Cheechoo+" scenarios, 'cause it just ain't happening!

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

I would be interested in Svatos on the cheap. It's about the biggest move up front we can honestly expect BM to make. Given the way the team is playing and our super-limited cap space, BM isn't going to really change the make up of the room by making major subtractions and he doesn't have the space to add too much.

SSF, you've got to temper your expectations. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. OTT is not in a position to make major moves at the deadline this year.

I'm already disappointed that nothing has been done already. I've never advocated a major move. Adding a Top-2 LW to a lineup that only has one is not a big deal and subtracting a tradeable asset like Hands of Stone Kelly or Volchenkov wouldn't hurt us as much as people would have you think.

Dallas is ripe to be picked clean, and they won't be the only seller. For that reason alone, BM is in a fine position to make impactful changes.

Kelly and Volchenkov are two guys I want on this roster going into the playoffs, tho'. Kelly is playing probably the best hockey of his life -- having Winchester and Z. Smith makes it a little more palatable, I guess, but neither guy is playoff tested. Moving Volchenkov would be pretty disastrous for us. He'd have to be replaced. We don't have anyone who can step up into his role, and we're not going to get a better player at a similar cap hit.

I can't figure out why you want to ship out core guys for rental forwards when your team is winning and is deeper at forward than it's been in years.

rooneypoo wrote:I can't figure out why you want to ship out core guys for rental forwards when your team is winning and is deeper at forward than it's been in years.

We have 5/6ths of two top lines, at best. Not good enough. Kelly is not "core". He's a support player.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I can't figure out why you want to ship out core guys for rental forwards when your team is winning and is deeper at forward than it's been in years.

We have 5/6ths of two top lines, at best. Not good enough. Kelly is not "core". He's a support player.

Kelly is the 3rd line center and one of our best shutdown guys for the playoffs. He's just replacing Foligno, who I think can play top 6 every night, when with Fisher.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I can't figure out why you want to ship out core guys for rental forwards when your team is winning and is deeper at forward than it's been in years.

We have 5/6ths of two top lines, at best. Not good enough. Kelly is not "core". He's a support player.

We have 3 lines that all pose a legitimate scoring threats, plus a 4th that can score as it bangs the opposition around. This is the deepest OTT has been at forward since Havlat was here.

"Support players" don't get signed to 4 year, multi-million dollar deals. That was the difference between Vermette's deal and Kelly's. Whether we like it or not, BM marked Kelly off as "core" with that deal.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I can't figure out why you want to ship out core guys for rental forwards when your team is winning and is deeper at forward than it's been in years.

We have 5/6ths of two top lines, at best. Not good enough. Kelly is not "core". He's a support player.

I would argue he isnt a core player. I think he very much is.

N4L wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I can't figure out why you want to ship out core guys for rental forwards when your team is winning and is deeper at forward than it's been in years.

We have 5/6ths of two top lines, at best. Not good enough. Kelly is not "core". He's a support player.

I would argue he isnt a core player. I think he very much is.

Can I get some clarification on those two sentences?