Whitney? What are the trade deadline options?

rooneypoo wrote:
But then the $ doesn't work. Even with Campoli or Picard. We're really tight against the cap.

And I consider a 2nd + Lee rather substantial, for reasons articulated above.

I will always defer to you as from what I've read you are normally on the ball, but Given Whitney's salary is 3.5 million wouldn't we have enough cap room by the time the trade deadline happened, and moving another player (ie campoli) out. I know it would be close, but Acquiring Whitney would allow us to another player down to the farm.

Hell maybe putting Cheechoo on waivers would be enough to have someone take him off our hands..

I personally don't think we have a chance. I know Rutherford and Murray like each other etc, but it'll be a bidding war for Whitney and I don't see who we could give from our roster to acquire The Wizard. Not Kelly, because we've lived through him being crappy and now that we're winning, he's integral. So is Ruutu. So they only guys we can even think about moving are Cheechoo and Shannon. Shannon to me is a perfect third liner who can move up if there are injuries, so I would say no to that. Cheechoo, I doubt anyone would want, so we're stuck I would say.

SpezDispenser wrote:I personally don't think we have a chance. I know Rutherford and Murray like each other etc, but it'll be a bidding war for Whitney and I don't see who we could give from our roster to acquire The Wizard. Not Kelly, because we've lived through him being crappy and now that we're winning, he's integral. So is Ruutu. So they only guys we can even think about moving are Cheechoo and Shannon. Shannon to me is a perfect third liner who can move up if there are injuries, so I would say no to that. Cheechoo, I doubt anyone would want, so we're stuck I would say.

Ruutu has as much to do with Kelly being integral as Kelly does.

Here's the consequences of trading Kelly for The Wizard. You end up with Winchester or Zach Smith as your 4th line Center and you add the option of a 41 pt. left winger to a mix that currently includes Foligno (23 pts.) and Del Shannon (13pts.).

SeawaySensFan wrote:Ruutu has as much to do with Kelly being integral as Kelly does.

Here's the consequences of trading Kelly for The Wizard. You end up with Winchester or Zach Smith as your 4th line Center and you add the option of a 41 pt. left winger to a mix that currently includes Foligno (23 pts.) and Del Shannon (13pts.).

Nervous times. Kelly is paid to kill penalties and provide energy. He's doing that so well right now that his line is often more dangerous than any other line.

You know me, I was on the trade-Kelly bandwagon forever, but he's won me over. I dunno what to do.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Ruutu has as much to do with Kelly being integral as Kelly does.

Here's the consequences of trading Kelly for The Wizard. You end up with Winchester or Zach Smith as your 4th line Center and you add the option of a 41 pt. left winger to a mix that currently includes Foligno (23 pts.) and Del Shannon (13pts.).

Nervous times. Kelly is paid to kill penalties and provide energy. He's doing that so well right now that his line is often more dangerous than any other line.

You know me, I was on the trade-Kelly bandwagon forever, but he's won me over. I dunno what to do.

Do you think it's a coicidence that Smith was killing penalties when he was called up? How do you feel about paying guys to score goals?

Now, more than ever, is the time to trade Kelly.

Here's my take on this.

We hear that OTtawa and Pittsburg are the front runners in the sweeptakes.
Seeing the standings, those 2 teams are likely to meet (again) in the 1st round of the playoffs.

I think it's safe to say that Crosby/Malkin with Whitney on the wing is scary. On the other hand, Fisher with Kovalev and Whitney would be scary for Pittsburg, as our 2nd line.

Now, as much as I like Jesse Winchester, I think he's worth moving because of Zach Smith. But, his salary is ridiculously low that it's not gonna work cap wise.

Now, if we sweeten the pot, do you guys think Carolina is gonna take Cheechoo? I guess this only works if LA wins the Kovalchuk sweeptakes because, let's be honest, if they are in the whitney race, no way we can compete with their assets.

I would trade a 2nd rounder for next year because that draft look awful, then I'd add a Brian Lee and Jonathan Cheechoo.
Helps us cap wise for the summer, gives us a top 6 that could rival Chicago.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Ruutu has as much to do with Kelly being integral as Kelly does.

Here's the consequences of trading Kelly for The Wizard. You end up with Winchester or Zach Smith as your 4th line Center and you add the option of a 41 pt. left winger to a mix that currently includes Foligno (23 pts.) and Del Shannon (13pts.).

Nervous times. Kelly is paid to kill penalties and provide energy. He's doing that so well right now that his line is often more dangerous than any other line.

You know me, I was on the trade-Kelly bandwagon forever, but he's won me over. I dunno what to do.

Do you think it's a coicidence that Smith was killing penalties when he was called up? How do you feel about paying guys to score goals?

Now, more than ever, is the time to trade Kelly.

Wasn't Smith filling in for Winchester? To say that Smith could fill in for Kelly right now would be a mistake, it's not close right now. In the future it will be, round about the time Kelly's contract is expiring, but now? I re-iterate, it's nervous times.

Now, I do agree with you about The Wizardo, I've always liked him a lot and think he's a natural to play with one of the top 3 centers. And your point about trading Kelly while the value's high is NOT lost on me by any stretch.

SpezDispenser wrote:Wasn't Smith filling in for Winchester? To say that Smith could fill in for Kelly right now would be a mistake, it's not close right now. In the future it will be, round about the time Kelly's contract is expiring, but now? I re-iterate, it's nervous times.

Now, I do agree with you about The Wizardo, I've always liked him a lot and think he's a natural to play with one of the top 3 centers. And your point about trading Kelly while the value's high is NOT lost on me by any stretch.

I'm more nervous about an early-round playoff exit than anything else.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Wasn't Smith filling in for Winchester? To say that Smith could fill in for Kelly right now would be a mistake, it's not close right now. In the future it will be, round about the time Kelly's contract is expiring, but now? I re-iterate, it's nervous times.

Now, I do agree with you about The Wizardo, I've always liked him a lot and think he's a natural to play with one of the top 3 centers. And your point about trading Kelly while the value's high is NOT lost on me by any stretch.

I'm more nervous about an early-round playoff exit than anything else.

Three weeks ago, we were nervous about making the playoffs. Baby steps.

Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Wasn't Smith filling in for Winchester? To say that Smith could fill in for Kelly right now would be a mistake, it's not close right now. In the future it will be, round about the time Kelly's contract is expiring, but now? I re-iterate, it's nervous times.

Now, I do agree with you about The Wizardo, I've always liked him a lot and think he's a natural to play with one of the top 3 centers. And your point about trading Kelly while the value's high is NOT lost on me by any stretch.

I'm more nervous about an early-round playoff exit than anything else.

Three weeks ago, we were nervous about making the playoffs. Baby steps.

What have you done with Dr. Poo, Dr. Leo Marvin?

3 weeks ago we were 5 weeks away from the Olympic trade freeze. Not so much now.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Wasn't Smith filling in for Winchester? To say that Smith could fill in for Kelly right now would be a mistake, it's not close right now. In the future it will be, round about the time Kelly's contract is expiring, but now? I re-iterate, it's nervous times.

Now, I do agree with you about The Wizardo, I've always liked him a lot and think he's a natural to play with one of the top 3 centers. And your point about trading Kelly while the value's high is NOT lost on me by any stretch.

I'm more nervous about an early-round playoff exit than anything else.

Three weeks ago, we were nervous about making the playoffs. Baby steps.

What have you done with Dr. Poo, Dr. Leo Marvin?

3 weeks ago we were 5 weeks away from the Olympic trade freeze. Not so much now.

So, in your opinion, in three short weeks, we went from a playoff bubble team to a team that is one Ray Whitney away from the Cup?

I want to see what we do over the next 8 games before we do anything.

Dash wrote:Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

Isn't Kelly on pace for 15 goals? That, along with the PKing prowess must be worth 2 million, no? Close anyway.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

Isn't Kelly on pace for 15 goals? That, along with the PKing prowess must be worth 2 million, no? Close anyway.

It's funny because for a few bucks more, Vermette gave us over 50 points, PKing and faceoff prowess and he was practically run out of town.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

Isn't Kelly on pace for 15 goals? That, along with the PKing prowess must be worth 2 million, no? Close anyway.

It's funny because for a few bucks more, Vermette gave us over 50 points, PKing and faceoff prowess and he was practically run out of town.

Find me one honest to goodness Sens fan that was actually happy to see Vermette go. We parted with Vermette to try to shore up our goaltending, and because we weren't confident he could be a 60+ point, front-line player. It's not like we didn't want him -- we just wanted our goaltending addressed, and/or we wanted Vermette for less than he thought he was worth.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

Isn't Kelly on pace for 15 goals? That, along with the PKing prowess must be worth 2 million, no? Close anyway.

It's funny because for a few bucks more, Vermette gave us over 50 points, PKing and faceoff prowess and he was practically run out of town.

Find me one honest to goodness Sens fan that was actually happy to see Vermette go. We parted with Vermette to try to shore up our goaltending, and because we weren't confident he could be a 60+ point, front-line player. It's not like we didn't want him -- we just wanted our goaltending addressed, and/or we wanted Vermette for less than he thought he was worth.

Oh yeah? Coming off back to back 50+ seasons?

We parted with Vermette because he was going to be stuck on the LW with Kelly and Neil because 2nd line center duties were reserved for Mike Fisher. And because the Jackets were smart enough to realize what he was truly worth.

This franchise badly needed a goalie so BM went after one ... gotta give up something good in return.

I miss Vermette but we needed a goalie much more.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

Isn't Kelly on pace for 15 goals? That, along with the PKing prowess must be worth 2 million, no? Close anyway.

It's funny because for a few bucks more, Vermette gave us over 50 points, PKing and faceoff prowess and he was practically run out of town.

Find me one honest to goodness Sens fan that was actually happy to see Vermette go. We parted with Vermette to try to shore up our goaltending, and because we weren't confident he could be a 60+ point, front-line player. It's not like we didn't want him -- we just wanted our goaltending addressed, and/or we wanted Vermette for less than he thought he was worth.

Oh yeah? Coming off back to back 50+ seasons?

We parted with Vermette because he was going to be stuck on the LW with Kelly and Neil because 2nd line center duties were reserved for Mike Fisher. And because the Jackets were smart enough to realize what he was truly worth.

Fisher over Vermette was and is the right decision -- I hope you're not suggesting otherwise.

But again, find me one Sens fan who doesn't miss Vermette. We had to give up a good piece in order to try to shore up our goaltending, plain and simple.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Ottawa just has a habit of overpaying for one-dimensional players. You might like these players on a personal level, and maybe it is the fault of the league for over-inflating value, but $3.5M+ for a defensive defenceman, and $2M+ for penalty killing specialists and grinders/enforcers is not ideal in a salary cap situation.

Isn't Kelly on pace for 15 goals? That, along with the PKing prowess must be worth 2 million, no? Close anyway.

It's funny because for a few bucks more, Vermette gave us over 50 points, PKing and faceoff prowess and he was practically run out of town.

Find me one honest to goodness Sens fan that was actually happy to see Vermette go. We parted with Vermette to try to shore up our goaltending, and because we weren't confident he could be a 60+ point, front-line player. It's not like we didn't want him -- we just wanted our goaltending addressed, and/or we wanted Vermette for less than he thought he was worth.

Oh yeah? Coming off back to back 50+ seasons?

We parted with Vermette because he was going to be stuck on the LW with Kelly and Neil because 2nd line center duties were reserved for Mike Fisher. And because the Jackets were smart enough to realize what he was truly worth.

Fisher over Vermette was and is the right decision -- I hope you're not suggesting otherwise.

But again, find me one Sens fan who doesn't miss Vermette. We had to give up a good piece in order to try to shore up our goaltending, plain and simple.

For the money we spent and the trades we made to "get Fish going", of course I'm not suggesting otherwise. Best move ever.

Vermette was a cap casualty, plain and simple. He was redundant on the roster and a move became available to address another area that was more of a concern than a fringe second liner who can kill penalties and is fast.

If Lehner is anything at all what he's projected to be, there's certainly the possibility that Vermette for Lehner straight swap would have been a fleecing for this team.

In the end, Vermette for Leclaire and Lehner will be one of the most lopsided trades in team history.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

For the money we spent and the trades we made to "get Fish going", of course I'm not suggesting otherwise. Best move ever.

By your own argument, it was either Vermette or Fisher who had to go -- because we needed a good piece to secure a goalie, and because we can only have 1 2nd line centre.

Fisher is the better player, full stop. I think the only time I've ever heard the phrase "we have to get Fish going" as a justification for making this or that move/signing is in your posts. Fish carried this time down the stretch last year, and he did a lot of the lifting early this year, and he continues to make significant contributions.

There's just no way you keep Vermette over Fisher. Tough spot and sucks we had to lose one at all, but there we are.

PKC wrote:Vermette was a cap casualty, plain and simple. He was redundant on the roster and a move became available to address another area that was more of a concern than a fringe second liner who can kill penalties and is fast.

If Lehner is anything at all what he's projected to be, there's certainly the possibility that Vermette for Lehner straight swap would have been a fleecing for this team.

In the end, Vermette for Leclaire and Lehner will be one of the most lopsided trades in team history.

Then maybe Kelly would make an equally appropriate cap casualty as well? He might not be a "fringe second liner" but he does kill penalties and he is fast.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

For the money we spent and the trades we made to "get Fish going", of course I'm not suggesting otherwise. Best move ever.

By your own argument, it was either Vermette or Fisher who had to go -- because we needed a good piece to secure a goalie, and because we can only have 1 2nd line centre.

Fisher is the better player, full stop. I think the only time I've ever heard the phrase "we have to get Fish going" as a justification for making this or that move/signing is in your posts. Fish carried this time down the stretch last year, and he did a lot of the lifting early this year, and he continues to make significant contributions.

There's just no way you keep Vermette over Fisher. Tough spot and sucks we had to lose one at all, but there we are.

How does any of this get us any closer to acquiring the Wizard?

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

For the money we spent and the trades we made to "get Fish going", of course I'm not suggesting otherwise. Best move ever.

By your own argument, it was either Vermette or Fisher who had to go -- because we needed a good piece to secure a goalie, and because we can only have 1 2nd line centre.

Fisher is the better player, full stop. I think the only time I've ever heard the phrase "we have to get Fish going" as a justification for making this or that move/signing is in your posts. Fish carried this time down the stretch last year, and he did a lot of the lifting early this year, and he continues to make significant contributions.

There's just no way you keep Vermette over Fisher. Tough spot and sucks we had to lose one at all, but there we are.

How does any of this get us any closer to acquiring the Wizard?

Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

rooneypoo wrote:Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

It was my fault because I got the impression we were less attached to Vermette than we are to Kelly, who is a lesser player, in my opinion.

What I think is that we are definitely getting a player or more and it will be interesting to see who we give up. That's pretty much it.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

It was my fault because I got the impression we were less attached to Vermette than we are to Kelly, who is a lesser player, in my opinion.

What I think is that we are definitely getting a player or more and it will be interesting to see who we give up. That's pretty much it.

Oh, I would prefer Vermette to Kelly, for sure. Kelly doesn't get us Leclaire + Lehner, tho', unfortunately.

As for the deadline thing, I really don't see a way for us to add anything substantial. We're just too tight against the cap. I don't like breaking up the chemistry we're developed, either, so I really don't want to move a piece like Kelly.

If we have to make a move, it will be because it will have become apparent that Volchenkov won't sign with us and we decide to move him rather than lose him for nothing in July -- and if that happens, we're going to pursue a defenseman (Zidlicky?), not a forward.

Sorry, SSF, but I think Whitney is a pipedream. I just can't see where the cap space will come from.

i think it would be a mistake to disrupt the chemistry on this team. the only trade i would make would be to turn two of campoli/lee/picard into a strong veteran dman that is also cheap. i seriously doubt that happens, and i wont be disappointed when it doesnt.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

It was my fault because I got the impression we were less attached to Vermette than we are to Kelly, who is a lesser player, in my opinion.

What I think is that we are definitely getting a player or more and it will be interesting to see who we give up. That's pretty much it.

Oh, I would prefer Vermette to Kelly, for sure. Kelly doesn't get us Leclaire + Lehner, tho', unfortunately.

As for the deadline thing, I really don't see a way for us to add anything substantial. We're just too tight against the cap. I don't like breaking up the chemistry we're developed, either, so I really don't want to move a piece like Kelly.

If we have to make a move, it will be because it will have become apparent that Volchenkov won't sign with us and we decide to move him rather than lose him for nothing in July -- and if that happens, we're going to pursue a defenseman (Zidlicky?), not a forward.

Sorry, SSF, but I think Whitney is a pipedream. I just can't see where the cap space will come from.

Agreed. But I still think we make one or two moves. I hope they're worth it.

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

It was my fault because I got the impression we were less attached to Vermette than we are to Kelly, who is a lesser player, in my opinion.

What I think is that we are definitely getting a player or more and it will be interesting to see who we give up. That's pretty much it.

Oh, I would prefer Vermette to Kelly, for sure. Kelly doesn't get us Leclaire + Lehner, tho', unfortunately.

As for the deadline thing, I really don't see a way for us to add anything substantial. We're just too tight against the cap. I don't like breaking up the chemistry we're developed, either, so I really don't want to move a piece like Kelly.

If we have to make a move, it will be because it will have become apparent that Volchenkov won't sign with us and we decide to move him rather than lose him for nothing in July -- and if that happens, we're going to pursue a defenseman (Zidlicky?), not a forward.

Sorry, SSF, but I think Whitney is a pipedream. I just can't see where the cap space will come from.

i'd really hate to lose volchenkov now. almost as much as i'd hate to lose him for nothing in the offseason. however, whats the max you can pay him? i'd go to 15 million over 4 years as the absolute max.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

It was my fault because I got the impression we were less attached to Vermette than we are to Kelly, who is a lesser player, in my opinion.

What I think is that we are definitely getting a player or more and it will be interesting to see who we give up. That's pretty much it.

Oh, I would prefer Vermette to Kelly, for sure. Kelly doesn't get us Leclaire + Lehner, tho', unfortunately.

As for the deadline thing, I really don't see a way for us to add anything substantial. We're just too tight against the cap. I don't like breaking up the chemistry we're developed, either, so I really don't want to move a piece like Kelly.

If we have to make a move, it will be because it will have become apparent that Volchenkov won't sign with us and we decide to move him rather than lose him for nothing in July -- and if that happens, we're going to pursue a defenseman (Zidlicky?), not a forward.

Sorry, SSF, but I think Whitney is a pipedream. I just can't see where the cap space will come from.

Agreed. But I still think we make one or two moves. I hope they're worth it.

You're setting yourself up for disappointment / Murray-bashing. If we make a move, it will be of the Lapointe variety, not the Stillman variety.

garblar wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Haha. Good question. How'd we get here, anyway?

It was my fault because I got the impression we were less attached to Vermette than we are to Kelly, who is a lesser player, in my opinion.

What I think is that we are definitely getting a player or more and it will be interesting to see who we give up. That's pretty much it.

Oh, I would prefer Vermette to Kelly, for sure. Kelly doesn't get us Leclaire + Lehner, tho', unfortunately.

As for the deadline thing, I really don't see a way for us to add anything substantial. We're just too tight against the cap. I don't like breaking up the chemistry we're developed, either, so I really don't want to move a piece like Kelly.

If we have to make a move, it will be because it will have become apparent that Volchenkov won't sign with us and we decide to move him rather than lose him for nothing in July -- and if that happens, we're going to pursue a defenseman (Zidlicky?), not a forward.

Sorry, SSF, but I think Whitney is a pipedream. I just can't see where the cap space will come from.

i'd really hate to lose volchenkov now. almost as much as i'd hate to lose him for nothing in the offseason. however, whats the max you can pay him? i'd go to 15 million over 4 years as the absolute max.

Yeah, I'd pay him Kuba money -- if you can ship out Kuba right after.

garblar wrote:i'd really hate to lose volchenkov now. almost as much as i'd hate to lose him for nothing in the offseason. however, whats the max you can pay him? i'd go to 15 million over 4 years as the absolute max.

So would I, but I hear that a deal is in the works sending Volchenkov, Foligno and Kelly to the desert for Zbynek Michalek, "Sugar" Shane Doan and Brett McLean. Or not.

Can we change the name of the topic to something like "Trade deadline official thread" or something similar? Since the talks have pretty much derailed into general deadline acquisitions / trade ideas.

marakh wrote:Can we change the name of the topic to something like "Trade deadline official thread" or something similar? Since the talks have pretty much derailed into general deadline acquisitions / trade ideas.

You've angered The Wizard. Nice going.

Bah. He's never talking anyway. He just keeps walking. Spreading his magic.

rooneypoo wrote:Bah. He's never talking anyway. He just keeps walking. Spreading his magic.

Probably most important, he turns tears into joy.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Any relation to The Wizard?

Alfie could rearrange the letters in Wizard to spell Ray Whitney.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Any relation to The Wizard?

Alfie could rearrange the letters in Wizard to spell Ray Whitney.

All anyone needs to know is:

Historically many great men have weld the powerful mustache, @JustinHawkins is one of them.

That pretty much says it all.

Zidlicky from Minnesota would be a nice option, but again, cap space is an issue. Frankly, I don't see the need for a forward, we're good. Winchester's healthy now and there's nowhere to put him.

Focus on the D, mind you, even the D has some character. Upgrading Campoli to someone like Zidlicky would be nice, but not much cap space to work with.

The Sens will only deal away expendable assets at the deadline for a pending UFA. I would list those as:

SJ 2nd rounder and any pick after that
Lee
Picard
2011 2nd rd. pick

I left off the obvious assets that no one would trade for. Now this list changes if it is a player with term on the contract.

I guarantee that the biggest move Murray makes as it relates to future assets will be NOT trading Volchenkov for a prospect and a pick. In the end, barring injury or a massive shift in the standings, the team goes into the playoffs as is.

SpezDispenser wrote:Zidlicky from Minnesota would be a nice option, but again, cap space is an issue. Frankly, I don't see the need for a forward, we're good. Winchester's healthy now and there's nowhere to put him.

Focus on the D, mind you, even the D has some character. Upgrading Campoli to someone like Zidlicky would be nice, but not much cap space to work with.

I would think that if Murray needs space to make a deal, and cannot trade equal salary, Cheechoo will be waived to make room.

dennycrane wrote:The Sens will only deal away expendable assets at the deadline for a pending UFA. I would list those as:

SJ 2nd rounder and any pick after that
Lee
Picard
2011 2nd rd. pick

I left off the obvious assets that no one would trade for. Now this list changes if it is a player with term on the contract.

I guarantee that the biggest move Murray makes as it relates to future assets will be NOT trading Volchenkov for a prospect and a pick. In the end, barring injury or a massive shift in the standings, the team goes into the playoffs as is.

Or does something open up because of Volchenkov. There's probably a couple of handy scenarios involving three teams.

Here's the latest from senschirp:

I've been doing some digging on the Minnesota front and it does sound like Andrew Brunette is their target. Still not convinced the Wild will move him but Ottawa is interested.

Ottawa will also take a look at Ray Whitney but the asking price is expected to be too high.