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31Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:51 am

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N4L wrote:
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MurderOnIce wrote:The hit was a bit predatory but legal. Not really necessary in a preseason game IMO. Phaneuf is not trying to earn a spot. Everyone is a bit rusty and there has not been a lot of ice time given the shortened preseason. The teams are even in different conferences, so there is no rivalry. I don't get the thought process.

All said it was legal but I wouldn't say classy on Phaneuf's part. That is certainly one you could pass up. I know I would be tapping someone one the shoulder if I was coaching the Isles and not the douche who fell over like no-one sharpened his skates.

Great line, but your post fell apart after that.
Sure, it's just preseason, but does that mean that you half Donkey yourself around the ice? I LOVED how Dion saw the situation, took a few strides and just popped him. Phaneuf is going to be insane under Sutter- I really like where Calgary is going this year.

Like Neely said- Okposo should know better. 1) don't cut into the middle with your head down, 2) NEVER blindly reach for the puck, and 3) know where big dogs like that are when you're on the ice.

If you don't follow those rules, it's relative to doing a cannonball blindfolded with a bloody nose into a pack of sharks. Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 812636

We can agree to disagree... but this is similar tone to Downey's hit on MacAmmond. Same thing just a different spot on the ice. And Downey was trying to make the club. ...and I hate Downey.

Downie left his man to make the hit and it was totally unsuspected. Phaneuf was in postion and laid him out. Downie also jumped and left his feet for sure. This was like Alfi getting hammered IMO. Clean, but Bell was wearing a cage.

Bell lead with elbow and was coming from behind (that's what she said)... I don't see it as the same as the phaneuf hit...

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32Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:53 am

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Plus Bell hit a player that's near and dear to our hearts, where's most of us don't even know how to spell Okposo. Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 455378

33Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:55 am

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wprager wrote:
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Ya, I've gotta agree with N4L on this one. If we take your suggestion, you're basically removing body contact from hockey. Penalizing players if their feet leave the ice after a hit means it's now become non body contact hockey. Non body contact usually still has a little nudging and contact along the boards but that's about it because anything more is a penalty...which is basically what you're advocating. Anything heavier than that and you run the risk of your skates leaving the ice due to a slight loss of balance after the hit.

Not sure I would say it was Okposo's fault. He was in a compromising position because he wanted puck pocession and just got nudged by the back checker. Not really anyone's fault. Just a good clean, open ice hockey hit. That said, as was the case with Scott Stevens, you have to know who's on the ice and be prepared for that big hit at all times.

Sorry, Vandelay, but I've got to call a huge BS on that bolded part.

Hahaha...okay, fair enough. Would you care to elaborate?

34Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:57 am

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wprager wrote:Plus Bell hit a player that's near and dear to our hearts, where's most of us don't even know how to spell Okposo. Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 455378


excellent point!!! At least Okpoopo had players jump on the ice to stick up for him.

35Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:57 am

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Im trying to be objective is all.

36Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:05 am

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DirtyDave wrote:
I'm more copncerned with the player from the NYI that jumped off the bench to fight phaneuf....

I saw the too. That's a pretty major suspension I believe.

37Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:08 am

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Wow. Monstrous hit, totally legal, unfortunate result for Okposo. The only debate is does that stuff belong in pre-season? That was just Phaneuf being Phaneuf... it's what he does.

Hopefully Okposo is OK and not out for long if at all.

38Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:33 am

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DirtyDave wrote:
wprager wrote:Plus Bell hit a player that's near and dear to our hearts, where's most of us don't even know how to spell Okposo. Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 455378


excellent point!!! At least Okpoopo had players jump on the ice to stick up for him.

I dont know how to spell a lot of things!

39Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:04 am

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man that was a pretty brutal hit, hopefully Okposo is okay, he definitely got his bell rung by Phaneuf.

40Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:10 am

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I'll say this much: Phaneuf will have no choice but to answer the bell for a hit like that. Maybe against the Isles, they have no one intimidating, but try that against Boston.

41Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:25 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:I'll say this much: Phaneuf will have no choice but to answer the bell for a hit like that. Maybe against the Isles, they have no one intimidating, but try that against Boston.

or Minny, isn't Boogard still there?

42Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:41 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:
DirtyDave wrote:
I'm more copncerned with the player from the NYI that jumped off the bench to fight phaneuf....

I saw the too. That's a pretty major suspension I believe.

Well don't be surprised if he doesn't get a big suspension. There were 2 players who were leaving the ice, and the NHL will have to prove that he wasn't going on the ice for his shift anyway.

With that said, I believe he'll still get a suspension as the first thing he did was immediately go over to fight. Likely 2 games, but we're talking about a guy who was going to get cut anyway.

Personally, I don't mind it. As long as it doesn't result in 8 players on the ice if a player is leaving the ice and he jumps on instead of Tavares or someone then so be it. You can't start to lay down rules stating that Goons can't be on the ice immediately following an issue because now you're taking the coach's ability to run his bench out of his hands.

43Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:08 pm

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Vandelay wrote:
wprager wrote:
Vandelay wrote:
Ya, I've gotta agree with N4L on this one. If we take your suggestion, you're basically removing body contact from hockey. Penalizing players if their feet leave the ice after a hit means it's now become non body contact hockey. Non body contact usually still has a little nudging and contact along the boards but that's about it because anything more is a penalty...which is basically what you're advocating. Anything heavier than that and you run the risk of your skates leaving the ice due to a slight loss of balance after the hit.

Not sure I would say it was Okposo's fault. He was in a compromising position because he wanted puck pocession and just got nudged by the back checker. Not really anyone's fault. Just a good clean, open ice hockey hit. That said, as was the case with Scott Stevens, you have to know who's on the ice and be prepared for that big hit at all times.

Sorry, Vandelay, but I've got to call a huge BS on that bolded part.

Hahaha...okay, fair enough. Would you care to elaborate?

You are saying that eliminating jump-up hits will remove body contact from the game. And that's BS. What's there to elaborate?


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44Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:08 pm

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DirtyDave wrote:
wprager wrote:Plus Bell hit a player that's near and dear to our hearts, where's most of us don't even know how to spell Okposo. Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 455378


excellent point!!! At least Okpoopo had players jump on the ice to stick up for him.

You had to remind me of that, eh? Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 812636


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45Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:09 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
DirtyDave wrote:
I'm more copncerned with the player from the NYI that jumped off the bench to fight phaneuf....

I saw the too. That's a pretty major suspension I believe.

Look again. It was a line change. At least two guys came off.


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46Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:12 pm

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Dawg's Wife wrote:
Well don't be surprised if he doesn't get a big suspension. There were 2 players who were leaving the ice, and the NHL will have to prove that he wasn't going on the ice for his shift anyway.


Oops, sorry for smeeking. By the way, that is a weird avatar. Mesmerizing much like Hemlock's stick-man used to be, and nearly as disturbing. Is that Vincent Price?


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47Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:18 pm

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wprager wrote:
DirtyDave wrote:
wprager wrote:Plus Bell hit a player that's near and dear to our hearts, where's most of us don't even know how to spell Okposo. Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 455378


excellent point!!! At least Okpoopo had players jump on the ice to stick up for him.

You had to remind me of that, eh? Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 812636

this year better be different if Yabo sticks around in Bingo, not saying he will make the big club, but he better be the 1st call up for playing the meathead teams.

48Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo - Page 3 Empty Re: Phaneuf steamrolls Okposo on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:46 pm

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wprager wrote:
Vandelay wrote:
wprager wrote:
Vandelay wrote:
Ya, I've gotta agree with N4L on this one. If we take your suggestion, you're basically removing body contact from hockey. Penalizing players if their feet leave the ice after a hit means it's now become non body contact hockey. Non body contact usually still has a little nudging and contact along the boards but that's about it because anything more is a penalty...which is basically what you're advocating. Anything heavier than that and you run the risk of your skates leaving the ice due to a slight loss of balance after the hit.

Not sure I would say it was Okposo's fault. He was in a compromising position because he wanted puck pocession and just got nudged by the back checker. Not really anyone's fault. Just a good clean, open ice hockey hit. That said, as was the case with Scott Stevens, you have to know who's on the ice and be prepared for that big hit at all times.

Sorry, Vandelay, but I've got to call a huge BS on that bolded part.

Hahaha...okay, fair enough. Would you care to elaborate?

You are saying that eliminating jump-up hits will remove body contact from the game. And that's BS. What's there to elaborate?

He didnt jump at all man. What Downie did was jump. Phaneuf laid the guy out, that's it. 100% clean. It's not even an opinion, his skates were on the ice.

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