A message to Chicago bandwagon fans
wprager wrote:N4L wrote:Pronger is a durt bag and he got called out on it. Burrish's wont exactly be bible nor should it, but the truth is the truth. Ask around the league and players would say "well, Burrish is an idiot but he's right".
Some quotes from/about Pronger:
“In the ’70s when (Flyers GM Paul Holmgren) was playing, you could do whatever you wanted – on and off the ice,” Pronger said. “When I came into the league, you could pretty much do whatever you wanted on the ice, but you had to watch yourself off the ice. Now, you can’t do anything on the ice or off the ice.”
Quite insightful of him.
Pronger also talked about how society has changed in his time in the public spotlight.
“Do you ever see the media write about the times players visit hospitals or do charity work that the team doesn’t even know about?” he said. “No, those type of stories aren’t what the media are interested in.
“The connotations are always negative now. Society has developed this negative bias to everything – within the media, within social culture – whereas 15, 20 years ago, people wanted to believe the best. They wanted to believe in someone’s character and give them the benefit of the doubt. Now you have to earn it.
“That’s today’s culture and society. You have to live in it, but that doesn’t mean you have to like it.”
Evidence of this on this board *all* the time.
You know, I still don't like him, but I've gotta admit, this has softened my opinion of the guy.
Hoags wrote:A long time Hawks fan sent this to me on facebook:
A message to Chicago bandwagon fans
Michallica wrote:That was awesome! Shout out to Kanata...I'm sure chicago will forget who won the stanley cup when the cubs or sox make some headlines.
Prime-Time Metered Market Wednesday Ratings:
Fox Dances to Overnight Victory; NHL Ignited NBC on the Map
Fox 5.8/ 9
NBC 5.5/ 9
CBS 5.0/ 8
ABC 2.9/ 5
CW 1.0/ 2
-Percent Change From the Year-Ago Evening (Wednesday, June 10, 2009):
NBC: +34, CW: +12, Fox: + 9, CBS: - 4, ABC: -36
So You Think You Can Dance (Fox), The Stanley Cup Finals, Game 6 (NBC), Criminal Minds R (CBS), CSI: NY R (CBS)
The Stanley Cup Finals (NBC)
8:00 p.m.: 4.3/ 8 (#2)
8:30 p.m.: 5.0/ 9 (#2)
9:00 p.m.: 5.2/ 9 (#2)
9:30 p.m.: 5.4/ 9 (#2)
10:00 p.m.: 6.4/10 (#1)
10:30 p.m.: 6.8/11 (#1)
11:00 p.m. 7.1/13 (#1)
At 10 p.m., when game six went into overtime and the Hawks were poised to possibly clinch the series, the rating on WMAQ peaked at an even more astounding 46.0 rating (1.61 million households).
TOP 10 MARKETS
1. Chicago 32.8/50
2. Philadelphia 26.8/38
3. Buffalo 13.5/20
4. Pittsburgh 9.7/14
T5. Detroit 6.3/10
T5. Indianapolis 6.3/10
7. Fort Myers 6.1/10
8. Minneapolis 5.9/11
9. Las Vegas 5.7/9
10. Boston 5.1/9
Dash wrote:"where is that? In the minors?"
- Chris Pronger's response to Burrish's comments about punching him.
Michallica wrote:...u win. Fine they won't forget, but I mean more in terms of them still playing back-up fiddle to Sox, Cubs, and Bulls. Watch out if the Bulls get Lebron. Fans will still be there, but it'll still be the case of being secondary to the rest.
N4L wrote:"Clorafill? More like BORAFILL"
asq2 wrote:I agree somewhat, but how do you know if a prospect is going to be a certain calibre? Look at Kyle Turris or, worse yet, Lauri Tukonen. There's amount of luck and leaps of faith necessary to build a Cup-Winner IMO. If it was easily reducible to formula, I wouldn't be following the NHL.
Philly got lucky that the Bruins lost Krejci after going up 3-0 and were incredibly fortunate to find Leino on waivers. The 'Hawks were fortunate to win Game 6 of the Nashville series, though I suppose they'd probably have won Game 7 anyway. More importantly, they're lucky they have Toews right now and not Jordan Staal (though it's possible they'd have taken Backstrom).
The Sens were supposed to win in 2002-2003 and 2005-2006 but actually got closest after they lost Hasek, Chara and Havlat in one off-season. That's not to say I'm advocating we try the "dump talent" tactic again.
Anyway, I think there are some pretty serious pieces here and it's hard to deny that Murray's work in the 2008 and 2009 drafts have totally redefined the future of the franchise. I'm excited about the potential of Karlsson, Cowen and Wiercioch because I've seen teams like Chicago (Keith, Seabrook, Campbell, Hjalmarsson), Philly (Pronger, Timonen, Coburn, Carle), Detroit (Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart) and Anaheim (Niedermayer, Pronger, Beauchemin, O'Donnell) rely heavily on their top-4 D to deliver them success.
I think we'll be OK. Though I must say that having watched young captains like Toews and Richards lead their teams to the Finals, I'm starting to hope pretty heavily that we land a guy like Skinner, if not Gudbranson.
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