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421Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:49 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
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SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  
The payroll has to come down by 8-10M between now and next October depending on the deals for our RFAs.  Tough to add in that environment.  Expect a goalie, Cowen/Wiercioch and Greening to be gone along with Legwand if Phillips doesn't retire.

Why is that again? Did I miss something, or is that just your opinion?
The Euge was reported to have said he wants to up the payroll to 60M next season.

422Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:51 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

I think young goalies let in bad goals every now and then.  It's just going to happen.  Give Lehner the starter's role, and I think he gets in more of a groove, and the bad goals become less frequent.  

Is Crawford a young goalie? I believe "goalies let in bad goals" stands on its own, maybe with a "sometimes" tacked on in front.

423Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:53 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:From what I saw Lehner is ready. He's ready like Carey price was ready when things got handed down to him. Will there be growing pains? Yes. But we are in a position to live with those. You get the right deal for Anderson, you make it.

Even St. Patrick gave up 9 once.

424Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:54 pm

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LeCaptain wrote:I have never seen a goalie trade returning anything significant. Like ever. If we can get a top 4D sign me the Diddle up, but I highly doubt it.

Need to wait for a team that's desperate. Eventually, that team might be the Sens, but so be it. No need to rush.


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425Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:56 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  

Why not? You think we are contending for a Cup next year or you think he could be so bad that we would miss the playoffs again? Top-pairing is set, clearing out used-up vets and young guys coming along nicely. If trading Anderson upgrades our top six or top two pairing I think we would make the playoffs even if Lehner doesn't play like Georges Vezina.


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426Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:39 pm

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I guess I should really have put this here.

Kings get Sekera from Carolina for 1st round pick (2015 if Kings make post-season, 2016 if they miss) and prospect. Francis and other Carolina brass at 67s/Frontenacs game today -- Kings have three prospects playing in Kingston.


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427Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:53 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:Toronto has traded Daniel Winnik to Pittsburgh for a 2nd in 2016 and a 4th in 2015 and Zach Sill.

Read one article entitled "Leafs smash homerun with Winnik deal". I had to click to read that just like my dad used to always buy the National Enquirer. Just couldn't resist.

So, let's see, they get a 4th in 2015 and a 2n in 2016 plus some plug 5th line center *and* they have to retain half of Winnik's salary. Sure, they would have lost him for nothing at the end of the year, but quite a few teams are looking for help on D and usually the longer you wait the more desperate the buyer becomes.


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428Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:14 pm

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Sekera to LA for a conditional first.

429Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:45 pm

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NEELY wrote:Sekera to LA for a conditional first.

The rich get richer.

430Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:51 pm

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I'll take that bet now, Ev.

431Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:58 pm

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wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  

Why not?  You think we are contending for a Cup next year or you think he could be so bad that we would miss the playoffs again?  Top-pairing is set, clearing out used-up vets and young guys coming along nicely.  If trading Anderson upgrades our top six or top two pairing I think we would make the playoffs even if Lehner doesn't play like Georges Vezina.

I think with the right off season moves - ie bring in boychuk or sekera plus kick the tires on a winger, the Sens should be in the hunt for the wild card. I see little reason why not, this was a year of the rookies and youth getting their feet wet, next year things should be a lot smoother IMO.

432Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:33 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  

Why not?  You think we are contending for a Cup next year or you think he could be so bad that we would miss the playoffs again?  Top-pairing is set, clearing out used-up vets and young guys coming along nicely.  If trading Anderson upgrades our top six or top two pairing I think we would make the playoffs even if Lehner doesn't play like Georges Vezina.

I think with the right off season moves - ie bring in boychuk or sekera plus kick the tires on a winger, the Sens should be in the hunt for the wild card.  I see little reason why not, this was a year of the rookies and youth getting their feet wet, next year things should be a lot smoother IMO.  
After paying Methot they won't be bringing in any defenceman. I could see them trying to get a winger but it would be a money in money out kind of deal.

433Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:59 pm

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Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  

Why not?  You think we are contending for a Cup next year or you think he could be so bad that we would miss the playoffs again?  Top-pairing is set, clearing out used-up vets and young guys coming along nicely.  If trading Anderson upgrades our top six or top two pairing I think we would make the playoffs even if Lehner doesn't play like Georges Vezina.

I think with the right off season moves - ie bring in boychuk or sekera plus kick the tires on a winger, the Sens should be in the hunt for the wild card.  I see little reason why not, this was a year of the rookies and youth getting their feet wet, next year things should be a lot smoother IMO.  
After paying Methot they won't be bringing in any defenceman.  I could see them trying to get a winger but it would be a money in money out kind of deal.  

I think it's possible they deal Cowen and sign one of those guys. Possible...

But yes, a big time winger would be top of agenda I would guess.

434Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:02 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  

Why not?  You think we are contending for a Cup next year or you think he could be so bad that we would miss the playoffs again?  Top-pairing is set, clearing out used-up vets and young guys coming along nicely.  If trading Anderson upgrades our top six or top two pairing I think we would make the playoffs even if Lehner doesn't play like Georges Vezina.

I think with the right off season moves - ie bring in boychuk or sekera plus kick the tires on a winger, the Sens should be in the hunt for the wild card.  I see little reason why not, this was a year of the rookies and youth getting their feet wet, next year things should be a lot smoother IMO.  
After paying Methot they won't be bringing in any defenceman.  I could see them trying to get a winger but it would be a money in money out kind of deal.  

I think it's possible they deal Cowen and sign one of those guys.   Possible...

But yes, a big time winger would be top of agenda I would guess.  
if and its a big if, they go after a winger then it will be something like MacArthur, Cowen and a 1st or a goalie going out.

435Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:13 pm

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wprager wrote:I guess I should really have put this here.

Kings get Sekera from Carolina for 1st round pick (2015 if Kings make post-season, 2016 if they miss) and prospect. Francis and other Carolina brass at 67s/Frontenacs game today -- Kings have three prospects playing in Kingston.

NEELY wrote:Sekera to LA for a conditional first.

ThisJustIn!

You forgot the prospect.


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436Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:22 pm

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Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:

I think with the right off season moves - ie bring in boychuk or sekera plus kick the tires on a winger, the Sens should be in the hunt for the wild card.  I see little reason why not, this was a year of the rookies and youth getting their feet wet, next year things should be a lot smoother IMO.  
After paying Methot they won't be bringing in any defenceman.  I could see them trying to get a winger but it would be a money in money out kind of deal.  

Yeah, with Methot in the fold they've solved the top-pairing problem that cost them the playoffs this year. That said, it depends on who they move. I am beginning to disagree with this but if they move Wiercioch they feel they are good to go with Cowen-Ceci as the middle pairing. If they end up trading Cowen then they might try Boro in the middle, because I don't think they feel Wiercioch (who is leading most of the possession stats on the team) is good enough. They could also look at bringing up Claesson and then there's good ol' Wik.

But there's a small possibility (especially if they end up moving more than one D) that they will look for a free agent signing.


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437Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:40 pm

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Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  

Why not?  You think we are contending for a Cup next year or you think he could be so bad that we would miss the playoffs again?  Top-pairing is set, clearing out used-up vets and young guys coming along nicely.  If trading Anderson upgrades our top six or top two pairing I think we would make the playoffs even if Lehner doesn't play like Georges Vezina.

I think with the right off season moves - ie bring in boychuk or sekera plus kick the tires on a winger, the Sens should be in the hunt for the wild card.  I see little reason why not, this was a year of the rookies and youth getting their feet wet, next year things should be a lot smoother IMO.  
After paying Methot they won't be bringing in any defenceman.  I could see them trying to get a winger but it would be a money in money out kind of deal.  

I think it's possible they deal Cowen and sign one of those guys.   Possible...

But yes, a big time winger would be top of agenda I would guess.  
if and its a big if, they go after a winger then it will be something like MacArthur, Cowen and a 1st or a goalie going out.  

Not MacArthur IMO. Cowen, 1st and something, but with Mac you have a solid top 9 player who at least brings it nightly. Cowen and Anderson are candidates, I'll admit.

Legwand and Wiercioch too. Out with the deadish weight.

Mind you I love Anderson and like Cowen, but you know what I mean.

438Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 29 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 on Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:44 pm

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What's out cap at for next year without looking at the rfas? I can't do it right now, anyone know? Around 60 id guess.

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