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wprager


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So the rookie camp is on. Main camp starts in two weeks. Keep an eye on Parker Kelly (co-winner of hardest working prospect at DC) and Aaron Luchuk (who led the OHL in scoring as an overrated). And, of course all the other top prospects.

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wprager wrote:Ev, are you suggesting this is PR? Appease the fans by showing how you're beefing up hockey ops?

I think we can all agree these steps are necessary. I think it may be a stretch to say that these steps indicate either a sale being imminent or that Melnyk is digging in.


no sorry I think the team should announce it, but the fans who over analyze every position of the organization is mind boggling. Ask any die hard NFL fan for example, they would have zero clue who their scouts are

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Ev wrote:
wprager wrote:Ev, are you suggesting this is PR? Appease the fans by showing how you're beefing up hockey ops?

I think we can all agree these steps are necessary. I think it may be a stretch to say that these steps indicate either a sale being imminent or that Melnyk is digging in.


no sorry I think the team should announce it, but the fans who over analyze every position of the organization is mind boggling. Ask any die hard NFL fan for example, they would have zero clue who their scouts are

I completely agree that this sort of announcement should normally not get any rouse out of fans... yet in this market and with ownership it does have more reasons for relevance.

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wprager wrote:So the rookie camp is on. Main camp starts in two weeks.  Keep an eye on Parker Kelly (co-winner of hardest working prospect at DC) and Aaron Luchuk (who led the OHL in scoring as an overrated).  And, of course all the other top prospects.
Does anyone know if they are releasing who will play in which games?
Ive got tickets to tomorrow’s game and will likely go on saturday also. At 19 $ a ticket why the hell not.
I really want to see formenton, white, brown, batherson, Gustavsson and Luchuk. Really keeping an eye on those. Oh! And tkachuk!

Strangely, after the year we had, I’m excited for some hockey!

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They haven't announced lineups yet for any games.

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quite possibly the worst rankings I have ever seen of our prospects (side note, this site in general is horrible).

https://t.co/vAb9w9vE2I

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Ev wrote:quite possibly the worst rankings I have ever seen of our prospects (side note, this site in general is horrible).

https://t.co/vAb9w9vE2I

well I don't quite agree with his rankings but at least he has his own opinion as opposed as just repackaging someone else's opinions

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You simply can’t be taken seriously if you have Gabriel Gagne over Colin white. Gabriel Gagne has been a horrible pro so far and doesn’t have near the upside

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Ev wrote:You simply can’t be taken seriously if you have Gabriel Gagne over Colin white. Gabriel Gagne has been a horrible pro so far and doesn’t have near the upside

I think what he was trying to say is if Gagne was gonna make it is he was gonna be a top 6 forward and his belief is that white was a 3rd liner(which is actually what I fear also) . I think the bust factor is much higher on gagne but who knows, he might turn out to be better.
I think he took some gutsy pick but I don’t think it’s idiotic. It’s his opinion. Not mine but ok.

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Yeah, I don't think his rankings are that terrible, but there's a couple oddities (like Gagne over White).

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I think White has bust potential (which to me is 3rd line potential) but let's not forget he's still technically a rookie. He will be fine. If he plays 82 games, I expect a 30-40 point year which isn't all that bad.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think White has bust potential (which to me is 3rd line potential) but let's not forget he's still technically a rookie. He will be fine. If he plays 82 games, I expect a 30-40 point year which isn't all that bad.

I think you’re right. White winding up a 3rd liner would be a disappointment. But we won’t know for a while. I thought Foligno was miscast as a top 6 forward but I was wrong there. I thought Nick Paul waslikely to be a 3rd line centre when many on this site had him pegged as a 2nd line Center when we got him and it doesn’t even look like he might make the NHL.

It’s hard to make accurate projections even for guys like Dorion so let’s all take it with a grain of salt from Bloggers and fans.

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40 points as a rookie for a 2-way player likely playing third line minutes? I think that's a little aggressive.


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Good night for the rookies.  Rockets are awful.


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Yeah, Tkachuk looked really good last night from the two periods I watched.  Chlapik looked good as well.  Gustavsson was very good in net for the few amount of shots he faced.

For those unaware, RDS is streaming the games on their website. Sens face the Leafs at 3pm today. https://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/camp-ch/onglet/webdiffusion

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ok. so I attended both games. here's what I gathered from watching it.
(I tried focusing on a few players as opposed to the whole lot)

game 1
I kept thinking that this game is not a good test for these players and not a good estimate on how they can fair. the habs players were terrible and the game was played in majority in the habs defensive zone.

white: showed a really good compete level, playing an aggressive game and the scoreboard shouldn't be an indication of who was playing best.

Chlapik: you could clearly see the skills he has and that he's driving to have a spot on the sens this year. great compete level in the game. good playmaking abilities.

Wolanin: the one thing that was obvious to me with him is his mobility. great movements on the ice, second best on the ice for dman in mobility.

Tkachuk: felt like he had a target on his back in the first period. seemed like the other players were overtly trying to push him around. he definitely uses his size to get himself to the front of the net and will use it to score goals. did not see much flashiness from him but he does have a wicked release. exhibited some good playmaking skills to. better than what I expected. seems like a guy you want on the PP right in front of the net.

Formenton: his agility, mobility and speed are such a treat to watch. his coverage is great. you could see how he could be a legitimate force on both the PP and the PK. there's no doubt he's got top 6 forward written all over him.

Batherson:good first game, you can tell he"s got skills but it seemed like a player that is there to be fed a lot of the time. second game was best but we'll get to that.

Lajoie: surprising ability to control the play on the ice on the back end. his speed as a Dman was amazing. I mean, he"s very fast, skating backwards and forward. great mobility and is quick to jump on the rush. he does seem undersized but if he can grow into his frame or get used to playing bigger men he could be very useful and lethal.

Brown: to be honest I didn't think Brown was that noticeable his first game. seemed to lack compete and seemed a bit slow in comparison to the first game. saw him create a few good plays but seemed like a passenger in others.
Luchuk: good energy, seems to play a little small but had way more speed to his game than I imagined.

Gustavsson: good lateral movements, steady composure and I felt he allowed for very little in terms of rebound. very promising.

Jaros: he has one hell of a hard slapshot. was using his body like you thought he would.

for the rest you could tell the unsigned and lesser known players were trying to make an impression. that was quite a hit by mcleod on that Evans kid from the habs. was sent to the hospital. he had a good 2 games. you can also see what the sens see in that Parker Kelly kid. good energy player, lots of compete.

other things of interests:white was captain and Chlapik assistant. starts: Tkachuk 1st, Chlapik 2nd, Formenton 3rd.

2nd game.

I was a bit disappointed showing up to the game and seeing white, Chlapik, Tkachuk, Jaros, and Wolanin all be scratched. especially that I expected the leafs to be a harder team to play against.

but this was a much more fun game to watch than the first one.

Formenton: truly a pleasure to watch. delivered an even better performance than the 1st game. he was paired with stone and Batherson for the game. he got better as the game progressed even after receiving an elbow to the head that sent him flying to the ground while having to go to the dressing room. his coverage do to his speed is remarkable. he could easily cover two different players. it will be interesting how well that can transfer to the NHL. seems to me from these two games that he stands a good chance to get some games and start the season in Ottawa.

Batherson: very good positionally again and seems to set himself up in areas where he can become dangerous. him and Formenton seem like an excellent fit to play together. more so than with Brown. their speed match extremely well and they seem to know how to feed each other. the last two goals of the game (with less than 20 sec to the end and in overtime) saw them bring the game to another level. its just a prospect game but they showed the will to win and create opportunities when the game was down.

Brown:had a better game than in game one but also probably had more minutes. the lesser part of his line you have to wonder why he didn't give a little bit more in the game. seemed outworked by players around him. still, did show some skills and some good passes.

Luchuk: was given a bigger role this game and had a much better performance. he's got good speed, agility and compete. will be interesting how he fairs in the pros.

Lajoie: good positioning and delivers some very nice crisp passes coming out of his own zone. speed is key in his game. very interesting prospect to keep an eye on. had to leave early but he did get a star in the game.

all and all the biggest takeaway from this game is how well Batherson and Formenton play with each other. these two could easily IMO make the sens this year.
I find it hard to believe that Brown has practiced with the sens this summer unless he"s nursing some minor injury or something. not his best two games but did show some promise. if anything he does seem to have good composure. some of the lesser known players were just trying to impress too much and left some better opportunities go by trying to score goals when passing would have been a better situation. but I guess thats to be expected.


good games. we won! makes me crave for more and to see what these guys can do in the NHL!
I"m definitely on team Formenton/Batherson after these.

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I felt that in both games the Sens rooks were, by far, the fastest team (other than Brown). Even with Tkachuk, White and Chlapik not playing, if not for the one-sided refereeing (six in a row?) I don't think it would have been that close. Oh, and scoring a couple goals on the major would have helped, too.

Lajoie it's a great passer; who knew!

Formenton and Pageau will give us one of the best PKs in the business.

Tkachuk can start looking for a house now.

Brown should start packing. I'm not giving up on him by any stretch; big players often take much longer to mature physically. But he's just not ready. He can't keep up at this level, he'd be completely lost in the NHL. He's also got to stop coasting. It's one thing not being the best skater; it's another not even trying.


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Maybe I'm being too harsh on Brown?


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