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961Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:13 pm

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There will be more film for European prospects before the draft though. Raymond could have a huge start to the year.

962Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:38 pm

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Ev wrote:There will be more film for European prospects before the draft though. Raymond could have a huge start to the year.

Raymond will be watched closely and Stutzle's dynamic skill won't be lost on scouts. Imagine if he had played in the OHL last year? Goodness gracious...

963Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:37 pm

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Agreed. We're walking away with two amazing players no matter how you slice the pie

964Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:17 pm

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PTFlea wrote:
Ev wrote:There will be more film for European prospects before the draft though. Raymond could have a huge start to the year.

Raymond will be watched closely and Stutzle's dynamic skill won't be lost on scouts.  Imagine if he had played in the OHL last year?  Goodness gracious...

he should have. we'd have a better gauge.

965Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:38 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Ev wrote:There will be more film for European prospects before the draft though. Raymond could have a huge start to the year.

Raymond will be watched closely and Stutzle's dynamic skill won't be lost on scouts.  Imagine if he had played in the OHL last year?  Goodness gracious...

he should have. we'd have a better gauge.

Which is better for development though? Probably a men's league. If you believe the hype, a lot of people think he could have wrecked the ohl.

966Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:15 am

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PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Ev wrote:There will be more film for European prospects before the draft though. Raymond could have a huge start to the year.

Raymond will be watched closely and Stutzle's dynamic skill won't be lost on scouts.  Imagine if he had played in the OHL last year?  Goodness gracious...

he should have. we'd have a better gauge.

Which is better for development though?  Probably a men's league.  If you believe the hype, a lot of people think he could have wrecked the ohl.
that's a good question. at any rate he'd be easier to see him with players of comparable age and how he fairs on north american ice sizes and style of play.

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Heard him on the radio today. More than happy to take him at 3 if he slides. Some suggesting the gap between him and Lafrenniere is relatively small, while Byfield has a higher ceiling but is more of a work in progress that needs patience.

968Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:53 am

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Heard him on the radio today. More than happy to take him at 3 if he slides. Some suggesting the gap between him and Lafrenniere is relatively small, while Byfield has a higher ceiling but is more of a work in progress that needs patience.

His name is annoying though. Apparently it's pronounced Stootzluh

969Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:14 pm

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I thought you were suggest the name Tim was annoying Razz

970Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:04 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I thought you were suggest the name Tim was annoying Razz

"Tim" is the finest of names. Although it sounds like he likes being called Timmy?

971Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:05 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Heard him on the radio today. More than happy to take him at 3 if he slides. Some suggesting the gap between him and Lafrenniere is relatively small, while Byfield has a higher ceiling but is more of a work in progress that needs patience.

Gee...who has been saying that.... tongue

972Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:53 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I thought you were suggest the name Tim was annoying Razz

"Tim" is the finest of names.  Although it sounds like he likes being called Timmy?

Tim, Jim - it's all the same. And can't help but think of Timmy from South Park. Timm-ay!

973Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:04 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Heard him on the radio today. More than happy to take him at 3 if he slides. Some suggesting the gap between him and Lafrenniere is relatively small, while Byfield has a higher ceiling but is more of a work in progress that needs patience.

heard that aslo. he interviews well.

but Button is often the person you're using on quotes. the more years go by the less I like referring to Button.
i feel he falls in love with prospects and it colors his judgment.

don't get me wrong, I wot be sad if we pick him at 3rd and expect the sens to make that pick if it comes to him falling to 3rd but i think there's a lot of people that ignore some aspects of his game that wouldn't do so for other players. he's the sexy pick right now. the flavor of the month.

974Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:27 am

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Would anyone trade 5 for tkachuk in Calgary?

975Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:39 am

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PTFlea wrote:Would anyone trade 5 for tkachuk in Calgary?

In a heartbeat. Calgary would never do it. It isn’t even close.

976Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:59 am

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Heard him on the radio today. More than happy to take him at 3 if he slides. Some suggesting the gap between him and Lafrenniere is relatively small, while Byfield has a higher ceiling but is more of a work in progress that needs patience.

Just quoting you but this is a general comment.

The kid does one interview and everybody is on board with taking him early. I still take Perfetti over Stützle and still have Stutzle as being the 8th BPA. He has many reservations from me that are not easy to correct and almost impossible to pull off in the NHL. I question his ability to read the play, play in a middle of the ice and make the play there. He’s basically the opposite of Byfield in this entire scenario. Byfield defaults to the middle so much it actually harms him sometimes; whereas Stutzle defaults to the outside because he can’t make plays in traffic. Stutzle is a freelancer and can’t create through his linemates. His flaws are many. Perfetti’s only flaws are skating and pace and they are known to be easy areas to improve with drilled attention. Stutzle’s pace and skating unquestionable. Those are his two strengths along with stick handling. Let’s list his flaws shall we? He constantly overhandles the puck and tries to play the game like it is a skill competition. The German league isn’t known for its defence or its structure. His interior attacks did get better as his season wore on, but only once inside the zone. His transitional attack however is still very one dimensional from the outside. His off-puck offence and shooting is abysmal. He doesn’t find open areas of ice for his teammates to find him. He’s always over skating the puck because his desire to play short support. He’s inefficient. He constantly throws pucks away. He’s got handling issues. He will telegraph his pass for seconds before attempting it. Free-wheeling is not creativity and he lacks that. He defaults to just skating in circles on the outside when his one play isn’t there for him. His problem solving is atrocious. He can’t manipulate a defence at all. He simply gets by because of his skating, pace and hands in a completely inferior league and larger ice surface. Every single flaw he has, they are hard to break and his IQ won’t allow his style to change on the fly. The NHL has layers of defence, he routinely can’t get through a single layer.

Watch his games, watch his shifts. Don’t watch his highlights.

I get it. I even like dreaming that Byfield will fall to 3 to us, but Byfield is closer to 1 than he is 3. Stutzle is my 8. If we take Stutzle, it will be a mistake and we will see names be much better NHLers that we’re taken after him.

Lafreniere
Byfield
Raymond
Rossi
Drysdale
Holtz
Perfetti
Stutzle
Lundell
Askarov
Sanderson



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977Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:08 am

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Lagoon wrote:
PTFlea wrote:Would anyone trade 5 for tkachuk in Calgary?

In a heartbeat. Calgary would never do it. It isn’t even close.

What about for the 3rd?

978Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 - Page 65 Empty Re: Prospecting Prospect - End of Season 18/19 on Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:34 am

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Yes. But Calgary would still never do it in my opinion.

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